Tanks that want to take it slow?

[Kidria]

The question is misleading at best, how does everyone approach the conversation of slow pulls?

Is the tank someone who pulls one mob at a time and afks to watch Netflix while giving the group a bad attitude akin to "you don't pay my sub"? That's not ok.

Is the tank politely telling the group that they are new to or uncomfortable with the instance and would like to take it slow? That is very much ok.

To add, as far as we are into the expac, people that normally don't tank are still testing the waters thanks to them adding gunbreaker. I've a friend who played DPS her entire FF14 career so far and is just now really trying tanking, and it's irksome when she says she's new to tanking and people still try to outpull her because she's getting a feel for not just the job but tanking in general. You don't switch to tank and instantly have the confidence and skills to do wall to wall, esp in leveling dungeons when your party members are synced but you're at level, so I wish folks would calm down over it.

[ForteNightshade]

To add, as far as we are into the expac, people that normally don't tank are still testing the waters thanks to them adding gunbreaker. I've a friend who played DPS her entire FF14 career so far and is just now really trying tanking, and it's irksome when she says she's new to tanking and people still try to outpull her because she's getting a feel for not just the job but tanking in general. You don't switch to tank and instantly have the confidence and skills to do wall to wall, esp in leveling dungeons when your party members are synced but you're at level, so I wish folks would calm down over it.

I recommend she use Trusts then. I even said this to a friend of mine for precisely the same reason. She was initially nervous doing huge pulls. Trusts allow you to control the pace without inconveniencing anyone else. That being said, I often suggest even newer tanks try doing a double pull. Six monsters do very little damage, and you'll often find people more willing to accommodate tanks who do this because it shows they're trying to compromise. Personally? I straight prefer wiping because the tank tried a big pull but couldn't handle it. Why? I like they're trying to push themselves. Hence why I'll always reply "Eh, no biggy."

Nothing is more irksome than getting a 71+ dungeon and the tank only wants to pull one at a time. It tells me they wanted a faster run compared to Trusts since human players will typically do far higher damage. But they still wanted to enforce their preferred pace.

[Kidria]

I recommend she use Trusts then. I even said this to a friend of mine for precisely the same reason. She was initially nervous doing huge pulls. Trusts allow you to control the pace without inconveniencing anyone else. That being said, I often suggest even newer tanks try doing a double pull. Six monsters do very little damage, and you'll often find people more willing to accommodate tanks who do this because it shows they're trying to compromise. Personally? I straight prefer wiping because the tank tried a big pull but couldn't handle it. Why? I like they're trying to push themselves. Hence why I'll always reply "Eh, no biggy."

Nothing is more irksome than getting a 71+ dungeon and the tank only wants to pull one at a time. It tells me they wanted a faster run compared to Trusts since human players will typically do far higher damage. But they still wanted to enforce their preferred pace.

A late reply but yeah, she's pretty much resigned to doing trusts once she hits 71. Right now I've been going with her as my healer and encouraging her to do bigger pulls, and she's been doing a lot better, but the usual 'oh no' anxiety kicks in when she gets too adventurous and dies or a dps tells her off. I just wish the common majority had more patience.

[Yrantis]

A late reply but yeah, she's pretty much resigned to doing trusts once she hits 71. Right now I've been going with her as my healer and encouraging her to do bigger pulls, and she's been doing a lot better, but the usual 'oh no' anxiety kicks in when she gets too adventurous and dies or a dps tells her off. I just wish the common majority had more patience.

If you go in nervous you'll be twice as sensitive and only remember the jerks. It's true that the world is full of them, but there are plenty of understanding people too, most people as long as they're warned about the tank being new will adjust. The truth is people are often hardest on tanks because their failure is the most visible. If a tank dies, the party all dies right after 9.5/10 times, if a healer dies and it's near the end of a fight, the tank and DPS can pull it out, depending on the situation but it ALSO often leads to party deaths. When DPS die though nobody cares until DPS checks on Savage because the healer will just roll their eyes and res them with no issue. The truth is she'll never get comfortable unless she practices consistently. It can be scary dealing with what feels like people waiting for you to fail so they can complain, but you just gotta learn to tune out people like that and only seek constructive criticism. You'll know you've hit the big time when you can tank an instance and laugh at other people's low DPS while you sally through, especially with a competent healer.