[Petition] Remove Genderlocked Costumes

[MikuMitsuko]

Yeah sure boots okay that's being more specific.
I want to ask a question.
if a gay guy doesn't like females, why do they want female stuff to dress or pretend to be a girl to go after another guy who dresses and pretends to be a girl but dislike that stuff? Just wondering

Why not create a girl character? I mean you already want to dress like one what is the purpose?

you might say its not fair that girls get stuff but guys do and vise versa and yeah I am okay with with girls maybe wearing a tidus outfit or other gear guys seem to wear some girls are tom boys.

problem is guys always want what doesn't seem right, I a while back when this first was brought up, girl panties, skirts, dress's, bikini outfits and such this isn't about outfits for some people that's why I ain't cool with that.

now if its the outfit they just came out with in the store sure but yuna's dress NO.

I ain't trying to cause issues but there is a line that in games that shouldn't be crossed.

Also yeah girls could get away with wearing guy stuff, I can't imagine me waking up in morning slipping on a pair of my girls panties and bra to have a morning cup of coffee before i go to work or even a dress.

but some people do that now days but they go through all the work to become a girl and which leads to my question why not create a girl character

My Lord this post is just a whole load of Yikes. First, why are you assuming gay men have anything to do with this? And you're assuming predatory behaviour is the intention behind this? Or some sort of fetish? Wow.

Why, also, are you even bringing up cross-dressing in the real world? You are aware this is a video game, right?

Posts like this just baffle me. For starters, men can already wear dresses - WHM level 80 armour for example. The world hasn't ended as a result, so there's nothing wrong with un-restricting some more 'female' stuff. Secondly, even if for some few they'd like to be a man in a dress because they think it's 'hot', why is that bad? We can play a female character clad in a bikini or a maid outfit. This just proves my previous post's points, honestly.

I'd say more but I'd surely get the banhammer. Need my morning coffee.

[DenzelVilliers]

Yeah sure boots okay that's being more specific.
I want to ask a question.
if a gay guy doesn't like females, why do they want female stuff to dress or pretend to be a girl to go after another guy who dresses and pretends to be a girl but dislike that stuff? Just wondering

Why not create a girl character? I mean you already want to dress like one what is the purpose?

you might say its not fair that girls get stuff but guys do and vise versa and yeah I am okay with with girls maybe wearing a tidus outfit or other gear guys seem to wear some girls are tom boys.

problem is guys always want what doesn't seem right, I a while back when this first was brought up, girl panties, skirts, dress's, bikini outfits and such this isn't about outfits for some people that's why I ain't cool with that.

now if its the outfit they just came out with in the store sure but yuna's dress NO.

I ain't trying to cause issues but there is a line that in games that shouldn't be crossed.

Also yeah girls could get away with wearing guy stuff, I can't imagine me waking up in morning slipping on a pair of my girls panties and bra to have a morning cup of coffee before i go to work or even a dress.

but some people do that now days but they go through all the work to become a girl and which leads to my question why not create a girl character

Being misogynist and gay are both different things, gays don't feel sexual atraction for the opposite sex, misogynist don't like woman.

You okay with girls wearing male outfit but not okay with male wearing girls outfit?, that's funny. People don't need your permit to feels "right" or not, they should use what they want.

And that "line" the games should cross, it's a MMO and people should be allowed to be what they want to be, especially if they can't do this in real life for many reasons so theu could be it at least in a fantasy world. Religion stuff and concepts sould be out of that.

I'm not LGBT and yet Genderlock must over to me, there's some female outfit design that looks way better than males ( and i'm not even talking about dress like a "girl" ), if you don't like men wearing women outfit don't wear it, that's simple, don't "cross" your line. Even if it was a desire for "gay people only" there's many LGBTs playing this game and to be honest most of people i've met in this game are LGBTs, and they deserve to be represented, they are players like us. There's no one forcing you to wear female outfits, so don't force people to use the male ones.

[Gula]

It'd be nice to have gender restriction free head/hand accessories. Less work load, ladies can get more hats, gentlemen can get more... Iuno, flowers? Shoes, Cool. I think heels on the already long legs of men are quite dashing and it's how things used to be fashion wise.

[Zeonx]

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When you say nobody is forcing you, you are right now you are basically saying I should be okay with it because you don't have a problem with it.
That everyone should and you might say "its to escape the boundaries of real life" Exactly this type of stuff is in real life and I am trying to escape it myself, you are expecting to alter my fantasy world for that?

Its not a one way street here it goes both ways you can't expect everyone to be okay with it.

I do see your point though I am not fully against some stuff being gender unlocked just certain items I rather not see.

Yes its just pixels I do agree that no identity but drawn to be based on the male / female.

At this point people need to meet half way, cause then people say "you need to be okay with this" then on the other hand you aren't okay with what people say in return there is no compromise so everyone bumps heads.

Also I ain't against people doing what they want its their character, body and right to do what they want nobody has a right to tell them other wise im nobody's boss at the same time you can't tell me what to do.

Anyways's Have fun everybody but note if they do get gender unlock it happens I can't control SE only give my opinion.

[Halivel]

They might have to make some minor alterations to the Tidus chest piece to make it work on females, but given it was a paid item (and will be again soon if the minions from that event being put on the mogstation is any indication), they have little excuse not to put in the effort.

A bit off-topic, but it just seems like you missed news or something. They are already there for a quite some time:

[Lunavi]

When you say nobody is forcing you, you are right now you are basically saying I should be okay with it because you don't have a problem with it.
That everyone should and you might say "its to escape the boundaries of real life" Exactly this type of stuff is in real life and I am trying to escape it myself, you are expecting to alter my fantasy world for that?

Its not a one way street here it goes both ways you can't expect everyone to be okay with it.

I do see your point though I am not fully against some stuff being gender unlocked just certain items I rather not see.

Yes its just pixels I do agree that no identity but drawn to be based on the male / female.

At this point people need to meet half way, cause then people say "you need to be okay with this" then on the other hand you aren't okay with what people say in return there is no compromise so everyone bumps heads.

Also I ain't against people doing what they want its their character, body and right to do what they want nobody has a right to tell them other wise im nobody's boss at the same time you can't tell me what to do.

Anyways's Have fun everybody but note if they do get gender unlock it happens I can't control SE only give my opinion.

I am very curious what you mean with meeting in the middle of the road here as when I see some people saying that on this topic they literally mean to maintain status quo despite status quo exclusively sucking for one side while exclusively benefiting the other side. I don't think you do, but I would love to hear your reasoning on this as my personal opinion of where the middle of the road is on this matter is that you wear what glamour you want and I wear what glamour I want and that Roebro with a tutu wears whatever glamour he wants and we all respect each other over it despite having disagreements about how it looks, which we all have the right to do.

But yes, the moment someone tries to take away your right to think that something doesn't look good there IS a problem, however, there is also a huge problem when you try to restrict people based on what you think looks good on them, especially in a video game. I can understand it if you own a company and want said company to have a certain cohersive theme/style to receive customers better, but this argument in my opinion hardly works for an MMORPG, especially not one with such a massive wardrobe as FFXIV.

[Jybril]

When you say nobody is forcing you, you are right now you are basically saying I should be okay with it because you don't have a problem with it.
That everyone should and you might say "its to escape the boundaries of real life" Exactly this type of stuff is in real life and I am trying to escape it myself, you are expecting to alter my fantasy world for that?

Its not a one way street here it goes both ways you can't expect everyone to be okay with it.

I do see your point though I am not fully against some stuff being gender unlocked just certain items I rather not see.

Yes its just pixels I do agree that no identity but drawn to be based on the male / female.

At this point people need to meet half way, cause then people say "you need to be okay with this" then on the other hand you aren't okay with what people say in return there is no compromise so everyone bumps heads.

Also I ain't against people doing what they want its their character, body and right to do what they want nobody has a right to tell them other wise im nobody's boss at the same time you can't tell me what to do.

Anyways's Have fun everybody but note if they do get gender unlock it happens I can't control SE only give my opinion.

In one post you said you don't want it, but now you say you rather just not see it, and another is you don't care either way.
Pick one. You're either with, against or indifferent.

I'll just chalk it up to you of guys being against female clothing
because it pains you to see other men wearing stuff I guess.
I have not seen anyone asking for men to straight up wear bra's and panties.
(Subligars or those swimsuits are a thing anyways...so I mean...)
Either way, it's your opinion so it's no big deal, but it'll be nice if you
were consistent about it.

[NekoHina]

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Then let them make more male exclusive items.

There are actually quite a lot of male exclusive items on the Mogstation, just as there are female ones. Off the top of my head I recall fashions from Ayermic, Hien, Gosetsu, Thancred X2, Snow, Tidus, Papalymo, Cid, Urianger as well as the male versions of all of the special Far Eastern/Lord/Prince sets. Sure there are female counterparts to many of these like Yda, Minfilia, Y’shtola, etc. but they are not the same.

There are plenty of gender neutral fashions in the game itself. Then on top of that most of the tank armor is not designed with female players in mind. I think they have gone over and above when it comes to this type of accommodation.

What I wish more than anything as far as clothing locks go in the game, I wish the SE team would remove the race locked fashions like on the undergarments. Along with this, I wish they would simplify gear (other than artifact gear) into DOW and DOM, DOL and DOH - thus removing the class restrictions. This would open up so many more options for all players without the team having to make ANY adjustments whatsoever (except for the underwear).

Removing class locks would be so easy, much easier than gender locks. It also would have the greatest overall benefit to the whole player base. I don’t understand why it hasn’t been done. The very least could be grouped tank, caster, melee, ranged. I thought they mentioned earlier on that they were going to do more of that. I see some DPS classes combined, but some are still lone wolves. It is just frustrating when the fashion is right there and you cannot use it.

Just my two cents.

[ValyrianBlood]

Why does there have to be a petition? Some outfits just do not work on males. It is not how they are designed and it genuinely looks bad. In the case of male bunny, it looks like a joke. Well, not on male au ra /swoon There could have been a male specific variant with suspenders and a bow to fit their form and add that casino appeal.

Even as a female, being Roe makes it hard to wear some glams because of the frame, and the system not being like some games where clothing has physics that cling. The Quaintrelle's ruffled dress for example looks like a moomoo and terrible on my gal, but fits a tiny frame of a lala. Race specific comparison, but I'm still female and too am limited in some aspects.

It's like yellow lipstick. Just because you can wear it doesn't mean you should.

I loved and played my FemRoe for the longest time but so much stuff looking terrible on her ultimately made me switch :/ I agree with 'just bc u can doesn't mean u should' but alas, many ppl many tastes, can't do anything about that.
As for terrible looking bunny outfits on males (as an example)...there are a lot of ppl (I encountered mostly female) with a weird lingerie fetish on males that I don't get but hey, fetish is fetish

Did i even complain about your rudeness ? it is fair game when you see how brutal my reactions can be and it worked against yourself btw. Yoshi p deserve to be looked over his behaviours, You can use politics as a setting for your game but you should not use your game as a setting for politics.

What politics are we talking here about that YoshiP needs to be looked over? What did I miss??

Then on top of that most of the tank armor is not designed with female players in mind.

Statements like these always confuse me. Tanks are supposed to look..'tanky'. How exactly would u make them look female? Show more skin? Be more formfitting? You want to be as protected and covered as possible while taking (and tanking) heavy hits...I loved every tank set when I played a female but I guess at the end it's just personal tastes. Vice versa Caster (esp Healer) gear is no way designed with males in mind and I hate that so there's that lol

[Iscah]

Statements like these always confuse me. Tanks are supposed to look..'tanky'. How exactly would u make them look female? Show more skin? Be more formfitting? You want to be as protected and covered as possible while taking (and tanking) heavy hits...I loved every tank set when I played a female but I guess at the end it's just personal tastes. Vice versa Caster (esp Healer) gear is no way designed with males in mind and I hate that so there's that lol

I agree on tanks - but that logic is why robes as mage gear make sense too. You want your character to look like a tank? Give them armour. You want them to look like a mage? Give them flowing robes and maybe a pointy hat. There are plenty of robes that look fine on male characters without looking feminine as long as you're not in the mindset that "robe = dress = female clothing".