A large amount of these arguments are anecdotal and heck, even most of these gaps can be made up for by having tanks/healers that are actually good at dpsing. the dps checks were slightly tight this tier, but they weren't unachievable. i saw a nin get 9% parses clear e1s-e3s just fine and dandy. it's all clearable with many comps. also, taking in 4 jobs that are utility based will bring a lot of those jobs up to the standard of the other jobs. MNK does not do higher pdps than sam, but slightly less and then there's brotherhood. the only reason mnk looks like it's massively stupidly ahead is because when it gets dance partner and drg tether, it's going to beat sam/blm. MNK is even a better dance partner because it has the fastest average GCD, so they'll often get that closed position. and if they get closed position, you might as well drg tether them too because of exponential growth. Also, that guy who said he ebat e4s on all 3 casters has 0 logs. just saiyan.