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    Renryuu's Avatar
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    Ren Aiuchi
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    Sage Lv 90

    Is Blm gonna be the only accepted range option now? :(

    So with several topics talking about how low dps the physical ranged and Smn and rdm are in comparison to the rest of the jobs, do you think people are only gonna allow Blms for groups now and ignore all other ranged jobs? I know since Shb release, on Famfrit, no one has been wanting physical ranged dps and have only wanted melee and casters, but with the 5.08 now out and a bigger gap in dps apparently created, I'm guessing it'll only be time before even Smn and Rdm will be not wanted. I've been playing Mch and have gotten to a competent level of skill with it (apparently I parse 10k+ dps from what I'm told), but what hope do I have if I'm gonna have an even harder time now that the dps gap is getting bigger. I've been trying to play Blm, but I suck at managing moving with it while I'm able to dodge most mechanics as Mch unless I'm unfamiliar with the mechanic or I have a derp moment.

    I'm just getting flustered since I finally have a job I can play well and love and it is apparently going into the trash in favor of a job I'm the worst at. x_x
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Every job is viable. If a group is forcing people to play jobs they're not good with, I don't see them making it to the end of the first lockout. Cause they will wipe and wipe. And wipe. Get annoyed because they have da Meta. Start shifting blame and arguing and the whole thing will fall apart. Was in a FC that happened. I can't remember the specifics, but someone was forced on DRG and a healer was forced off WHM to AST. And when they wiped, it exploded out of party chat and into the FC. They were the lowest being on jobs they're not familiar with and yeah. Keep playing what you enjoy.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    Every job is viable. If a group is forcing people to play jobs they're not good with, I don't see them making it to the end of the first lockout.
    Yes and no, In a scenario where a group of bad melees and BLM can clear whereas a group of ranged physical, RDM, and NIN can't, then you have a serious problem. Yes, the disparity is that bad, DRG, MNK and BLM are several thousand DPS above the competition, and that really adds up.
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    Every job is viable. ...
    Keep playing what you enjoy.
    1971 called: Been there done that
    https://youtu.be/1VM2eLhvsSM
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    Jace Ossura
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    if you're not speedkilling you can play whatever you want.
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    Sora Belle
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    Tl;dr, Yes and No. dps wise, there is no reason to take any of the others over 1 BLM with the exception of wanting caster Rez. however, in wanting caster Rez. there comes a reason to take something other than BLM. so basically, early prog is the only place where BLM isn't dominating or in groups who just don't care. Melee and BLM are so much better than everything else, that if it wasn't double BLM, it'd be Triple Melee and BLM before any of the other ranged/casters got a chance

    going to actually answer your question besides telling you to play what you want and that everything is viable because while it's true that everything is viable. you're still going to run into instances where PFs omit your slot for no real reason. SAMs got this hard in SB and RDM tends to get it about a month or so once PF gets more experienced and players start caring about their parses but not actually willing to speed kill. your "0 chest fun runs" or "Page runs"
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    Last edited by Wayfinder3; 08-31-2019 at 09:42 AM.
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    My own group are full FC group, we arent hardcore who race to be first clear
    but then if I am doing it with pug or random players, I would want as much DPS as possible, more DPS->less fight time->less mechanic->less chance anyone make mistake->less chance of a wipe.
    I have seen some group exclude specific job, i have see multiple group specifically "No RDM" in first week
    Meta will always be there, is how much the gap between the top job and lower one, big enough to exclude lowest job or small enough most players wont even care
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    Oniwori Kiyuromi
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    Actually. You need to have a physical ranged to get the full 5% .
    MCH DPS is fine honestly. I was in a es2 and the mch
    Was only 1k behind me.
    The better question is, will blm be the only accepted magical range?
    Because I haven't seen any rdm in Savage and hardly smn.
    Only BLM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Actually. You need to have a physical ranged to get the full 5% .
    MCH DPS is fine honestly. I was in a es2 and the mch
    Was only 1k behind me.
    The better question is, will blm be the only accepted magical range?
    Because I haven't seen any rdm in Savage and hardly smn.
    Only BLM.
    This isn't true. This is what it says in the 5.0 patch notes

    "Players will now receive a 1% increase to strength, vitality, dexterity, mind, and intelligence for each unique role in their party, up to a maximum of 5%". This means you'll get a 1% buff to all of these stats by having 1 of each up to 5 to times and the current meta seems to be deciding on 4% and an extra BLM/melee dps do to the inherent disparity

    1% of a party doing 80k is 800 rdps that can be attributed to each role so ranged would be their base rdps plus 800. the problem is this 800 dps plus their base is still lower than what BLM and melee are capable of and thats why we're here
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    Oniwori Kiyuromi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayfinder3 View Post
    This isn't true. This is what it says in the 5.0 patch notes

    "Players will now receive a 1% increase to strength, vitality, dexterity, mind, and intelligence for each unique role in their party, up to a maximum of 5%". This means you'll get a 1% buff to all of these stats by having 1 of each up to 5 to times and the current meta seems to be deciding on 4% and an extra BLM/melee dps do to the inherent disparity

    1% of a party doing 80k is 800 rdps that can be attributed to each role so ranged would be their base rdps plus 800. the problem is this 800 dps plus their base is still lower than what BLM and melee are capable of and thats why we're here
    Magical and physical range have their own roles. Its one for magical, physical range,melee,tank,healer.
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