Emet-Selch

[Yamr3]

I miss Emet-slech. By far my favorite villain as of lately. At first I didn't like him at all and was waiting for him to get somewhere else. As time went on, I started to really enjoy having him around up to the betrayal I was NOT expecting.. His witty remarks. The lore he's given us... Shame he's gone but I'm so looking forward to replaying ShadowBringers in Newgame+.

[ChaoticCrimson]

I'm also of the opinion that Emet should stay dead, as bringing him back would cheapen the end of the 5.0 story. I also concur that we should see more of his past, which I think we'll get glimpses of it in time, as we start learning more of our past connection with him as an Ancient before the Terminus. Elidibus has been playing the whole "mysterious" bit for so long, I can only but hope that when he completely drops all pretense he ends up being almost as interesting. I think it will be hard to surpass Emet though. As for Zenos, I still don't know what to think about him anymore. I was hoping he would join up with Gaius and Estinien as a begrudging ally as they infiltrate Garlemald throughout 5.0, and maybe use that as a transitioning point to start doing something a little different with him. This unfortunately didn't happen, so here we are.

[Skivvy]

I was so bummed that the ShB OST wasn't coming with a little Emet-Selch minion

[Baalfrog]

Or perhaps it's the: 'dedicating the rest of his life to doing what he feels to be best for his people, even thousands of years later, in the hope that he might one day see them again' bit that was omitted from your list?

You don't have to agree with a character to be able to sympathise and relate to them.

He was a tempered madman, thats why he cared so much instead of becoming apathetic and cynical old man like immortals overtime should become.

[Edax]

The Empire itself was unaware of his deception, though. Varis wasn't pleased when he was given the news that Asahi's presence was but another Ascian scheme at play. Sure, the Domans could have orchestrated his demise and passed it off as an 'accident' but then they'd have no high ground to stand on in the future if someone played the same trick on them in the future. Their hands were tied. I'd also note that there was the additional complication of the prisoner exchange to deal with. If Asahi was slain right then and there, it very likely would not have gone through.

Why would Doma need the high ground if the Empire tries another false-flag operation to start another war? If Asahi was fed to the beasts right then and there, then the Ascian plot would have been thwarted. Asahi couldn't even be bothered to keep up the ruse, so why should we cooperate with that ruse any further?

[Zeonx]

I don't think he is dead, usually they have to trap his light in a crystal right?

I don't think any of them are dead someone is bound to steal those crystals and bust them out.

[Iscah]

Why would Doma need the high ground if the Empire tries another false-flag operation to start another war? If Asahi was fed to the beasts right then and there, then the Ascian plot would have been thwarted. Asahi couldn't even be bothered to keep up the ruse, so why should we cooperate with that ruse any further?

I think the issue is that even if Asahi met with an actual genuine accident, Garlemald would accuse us of foul play - and that's likely to be the entire plan from the start. It's why Asahi taunts us with the fact that of course we shouldn't trust him as far as we could throw him, but you wouldn't dare harm an ambassador, would you? And no, we won't because we know it would be a massive diplomatic blunder - and right when the Domans are hoping to get their people back safely, if I remember right.

So either we let Asahi go about his scheme and risk not-thwarting whatever he has planned, or we start an international incident and the Garleans (via Elidibus's scheming) can point their finger at us and say "look, they shot first! They killed our ambassador and ruined the peace deal we offered them!"

[Tsumdere]

Emet-Selch is my favorite character in FFXIV by far. I really, really hope we get a wind-up Emet-Selch sometime, even though Yoshi-P said no.

I also don't think he's dead, and it's not only because I want him to come back.

[KaitoAsaha]

While I get what you're saying, consider Arbert. While not in a relationship, he is a part of us. And Laimitt(Lamitt?) wanted that D so bad. Is that upsetting to you? Because it's literally the same logic. Our original self is not really us but something we once were with entirely different thoughts, appearance, memories, everything. The kid from the 14th is also a part of us. We, the WoL/D are not a child either nor did we share the same parents as said kid.

If Hades had a fling/thing/anything with who we used to be, it is not us personally. But as the player, you could accept or deny this as feelings carried over without diminishing that aspect.

Personally it's not upsetting in anyway, shape, or form. I simply voiced an opinion for us to be given a choice and not have it be shoved down our throats. I can be happy for those that want that kind of development for their characters past, but it shouldn't come at the expense of others that may want otherwise, especially if we're potentially getting a glimpse into our former selves past here. Let us decide how to shape it, even if it's done via minor choices of simple yes and no options. As for why Arbert's establish history gets a pass? Well a bit of his relationship to his comrades was already cemented in the lore books, so that ship had sailed. They just fleshed out more information and details on what were in those pages. Whereas with our whole self we know so little and nothing has been set in stone just yet. Also the fact that these aren't actually our WoL/D isn't lost on me, but it is still our story.

[Akonyl]

Where's my Emet figure, SE?

Put an emote on it if you need to (his dismissive wave), but really I just want a figure of my boy.