Emet-Selch

[Enla]

Emet is best boi. I actually think he's the first antagonist I really loved in FFXIV.

...I still remember despising Asahi so much, I'm glad that little insect is gone. I didn't despise him like a good villain should be hated. He was just so annoying to me lol

Honestly Asahi bothered me more because SE forced otherwise rather intelligent characters to behave like morons simply to make him work as a villain. He'd have been a lot more effective if his betrayal wasn't so obvious from the start - from the sudden appearance of Red Kyojin so far inland to his way too 'kind' attitude. He had 'twist villain' written all over him and it just got insufferable watching otherwise competent characters lose their intelligence to add any threat to Asahi's agenda. Because if Hien or the twins actually been /thinking/ the entire debacle with Tsuyu could have been avoided entirely.

Half the fun of Emet for me was that the writer trusted our intelligence as players and never once diminished the main cast to make him 'work'. It's so refreshing and I really hope that they continue to give us more antagonists of his caliber in the future.

[DarkMasamune]

Honestly Asahi bothered me more because SE forced otherwise rather intelligent characters to behave like morons simply to make him work as a villain. He'd have been a lot more effective if his betrayal wasn't so obvious from the start - from the sudden appearance of Red Kyojin so far inland to his way too 'kind' attitude. He had 'twist villain' written all over him and it just got insufferable watching otherwise competent characters lose their intelligence to add any threat to Asahi's agenda. Because if Hien or the twins actually been /thinking/ the entire debacle with Tsuyu could have been avoided entirely.

Half the fun of Emet for me was that the writer trusted our intelligence as players and never once diminished the main cast to make him 'work'. It's so refreshing and I really hope that they continue to give us more antagonists of his caliber in the future.

Pretty much, yeah. It just felt so forced. When he turned evil I litteraly remember being like 'well yeah of course, whatever'. It wasn't interesting nor surprising. I actually thought SE was getting lazy with their villains lol

But then ShB came out and oh dear was I wrong. I hope we see more of Emet-Selch, throught flashbacks or the Echo, because bringing him back would just ruin the whole emotional ending we already got.

[Ayuhra]

Best Final Fantasy villain so far.

[Anthony]

Best Final Fantasy villain so far.

Yes! I totally agree!

[Fynlar]

To the people wanting a minion, we already have one.


It drops from the MSQ 80 dungeon, if the connection wasn't already clear enough.

[Dustytome]

I would like to see more history on him as well. I'm not really looking forward to facing 'mr blonde' yet again. It will be interesting to see if the devs can keep the depth of story rolling beyond the initial punch that's gotten them so much praise thus far this expansion.

[Enla]

I would like to see more history on him as well. I'm not really looking forward to facing 'mr blonde' yet again. It will be interesting to see if the devs can keep the depth of story rolling beyond the initial punch that's gotten them so much praise thus far this expansion.

I think Zenos works as a 'force of nature' sort of antagonist, but I do agree that after Emet going back to such a one note foe isn't very appealing. Yeah there's Elidibus but I kinda get the feeling they're saving him for last. I was intrigued though by the recent Gamescom lore panel where someone asked what Lahabrea's true name was and the dev's emphatically refused to answer. Makes me think we're definitely going to get more in game lore about the three 'main' Ascians soon.

[Elladie]

I am stil in mourning. I don't like 'back from the dead - surprise!' Scenarios because I agree with the statement others have made, they cheapen the original emotional impact. However in this case I would forgive SE lol. I want Emet back more than I care about critical thinking!

[AnimaAnimus]

They get rid of the good ones way to early.

Ysayle, Yotsuyu, Emet Selch...

And then we have the other ones, that should be explored because they could have great storylines or were set up to be great characters, but SE just kills em or ignores them

Ilberd, Regula van Hydrus, Runar, Magnus, Ran'jit, Blue/Red Jongleurs...

And the annoying, face palmy cringy ones overstay their welcome

Zenos, Lolorito, Zenos, Omega, Zenos, Alphinaud, Zenos, Crystal Exarch, Zenos…
Frankly Ishtola could be on this list too, she is just so holier than thou that she has become more of an annoyance than anything.

SE has a thing for cringy, emo villains with big swords tho so its no surprise they kept Zenos alive. He is just such a flat, one dimensional character that feels like he jumped out of the pages of some bad tween fanfic.

Emet Selch especially was so well written and given such a personality in the short time he was part of the cast that he feels like he's been a part of the story the whole time. He literally felt like an old friend. Which is no small feat in the world of writing.