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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    But it feels a lot better and is less frustrating to be not able to roll on something, because the Boss didn't drop it then to try the forth time to get a part you need just to see how a person who don't even need it, gets it.
    You don't know what other people need or don't need.
    Again, jealousy isn't pretty.
    If you're PUGing, you have only yourself to worry about.

    You now have a 12.5% chance of getting everything that drops.
    Instead of a 14.3% chance of something you can use even dropping, before competing against someone for a 7.1% final chance of you getting it.

    Even in the best case scenario, of you having nothing already and your competitor already having everything they need, your chance never got better than 14.3%. Less Than 2% better than the current fixed rate.


    And if you’re in a static, it’s better in every conceivable way. Nothing will ever use useless for the team, and you can direct gear to the players who need it the most.

    Nothing felt worse than getting your groups one shot at a gear drop for the week, result in a piece that no one could use.



    Quote Originally Posted by Miminming View Post
    This is also one of the reason the new loot system feel worst than the previous one for some people, you dont know and youll never know, the previous system at least let you know with the need/greed system.

    The current one? Someone who only have one level 80 job and no plan leveling the others might have 9 same type coffer one in each retrainer and saddlebag and still press need... youll never know... scary right? Heh
    Your jealousy is showing again.
    In this example, the problem is 100% YOU. For assuming the worst of people.
    This is everything that’s wrong with society today. People would rather spend more to stop other people getting something, than less to give everyone a better chance. Vindictive jealousy.

    Just look at the numbers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    When they already wear the part then I'm 100% sure that they don't need again for that class.

    Like yoshi said, long term it is the best way but in the first weeks it feels really frustrating to get nothing while some already equipping their 2nd class.

    Btw. I'm a sort of player, when the group was nice and I got any drop, then I pass on everything else. And also I just roll on things I really need on my main.
    And this current loot system would work if everyone would handle it a bit like I do, but sadly we have far to many selfish, egotistic player.
    I bet the system works fine on the JP server.
    And yet, even in this rare case, the old system would only give you a less than 2% better chance of getting that specific piece of gear.
    Meanwhile, the benefits of the new system, for both PUGs and Statics, but ESPECIALLY Statics, is huge.

    You’re only focusing on the tiny extra cost, instead of the huge boost in value you’re getting for it.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 08-23-2019 at 08:06 PM.