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  1. #23281
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Roido_Avingu View Post
    This wasn't a particular run, but this has happened to me at least twice. Why is it whenever I get a WHM for Qitana Ravel (I'm leveling my WAR, currently Level 76), my HP is always either at half or below during trash mobs? And when the WHM finally notices my HP is close to the danger zone, then they either Tetra or Bene me, only for me to get smacked upside the head by the mob. Bosses aren't so bad, but it feels like the WHM just wants to DPS and Holy or Glare the ever living daylights of the mob. I'm not even pulling big in Qitana, unless I get told I can pull big, the WHM just doesn't like healing, and only heals me enough to keep me alive.

    I never complained, because it isn't worth it, but dear Zodiark, AST and SCH's healed me more.
    WHM can do that because they have lots of ways to get you to full from less than half. They also have Holy which applies an AoE stun so you're taking less damage as a result of it. On a SCH you're getting a lot of shielding and preemptive heals like Excog which never lets you go below 50% by design so even though you're getting hit for the same amount of damage it doesn't look like it. AST is in a different place entirely, since they have the least effective damage kit and aren't quite as good as either WHM or SCH at rescuing from the brink of disaster, so an AST is more likely to heal a bit more conservatively and focus on card buffs.
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  2. #23282
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    Magnedeus's Avatar
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    Arngrim Lightheart
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    Zalera
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I ACTUALLY have a heart
    Ahahahahahah! No.
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  3. #23283
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    So, I'd like opinions on this particular thing I'm doing every time I run The twinning, and I'd like to know if it's basically a good or bad thing. Here we go.

    So the first boss right, has a the stack marker that leaves the dot aoe on the ground. If I recall correctly, these burns only stay on your chr if you stay in the ground aoe. Sometimes when I run The Twinning, I will get the second stack marker (usually as dps). What I like to do is staying on that ground aoe with the stack marker, that way it just stays in one place and we have more room in the arena to deal with everything else. Problem is...I don't think anyone shares that mentality and rightfully so. The only reason I bring it up now is because I think I may have caused a potential fart across the party when they saw me just standing in the fire and no one followed me. "Omg, another player who doesn't know how stack works" they probably thought, meanwhile, I'm just like "Come on into the fire for a couple more seconds guys, it's great!"

    Does what I do outweigh the pros? Does it have more cons? Should I just play it safe next time and just drop the second marker elsewhere? (Just for reference, I do this when the first aoe is dropped near the top because the tank usually gets it first).

    It feels to me like it should be obvious but maybe I'm the only one who thinks so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  4. #23284
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    Anselmet's Avatar
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    Laurent Vestra
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    Zalera
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post

    Does what I do outweigh the pros? Does it have more cons? Should I just play it safe next time and just drop the second marker elsewhere? (Just for reference, I do this when the first aoe is dropped near the top because the tank usually gets it first).

    It feels to me like it should be obvious but maybe I'm the only one who thinks so.
    Imo both ways are fine. If there are two melees I'd highly recommend using the tactic you did (assuming healer is competent enough to not freak out over the burn damage). But I'd say if there are two range or only one melee the other way isn't bad either bc there is still plenty of room to move, positionals, and keep markers from the tanks.

    But that's my opinion and I just go with the flow. If I see the persons with the stack marker remain in the fire I'll stack, if not I'll follow. To me I feel that both ways are equally fine so I wouldn't sweat it.
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  5. #23285
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I know for a fact I don't need the AST buffs. Content like Holminster Switch, Dohn Mheg, and Titania (normal) I'm pretty much carrying the entire raid/party. If anyone wants to keep up with my deeps, they need those AST buffs. Clicking an AST buff off is pretty much asserting dominance.
    I assert my dominance I take off my tank stance and shirk the healer, but that's a pretty ballsy move, rejecting a flat DPS buff.
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  6. #23286
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    odym82's Avatar
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    Onmyo Shugo
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 66
    Just ran The Vault with a very nice AST in our party. When we hit the second boss, the guy had prepared his dimensional rift swing (that pushes you to the wall where the black holes are) so I moved out of the AOE and so did the AST. Everything next seemed to happen in slow motion. I noticed that the AST’s foot was slightly in the AOE and they were in the middle of casting something. And I thought “oh no... are they not fully out of the way?!” And all i could do is watch in horror and the AST went flying past me, directly into a black hole for instant death.
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  7. #23287
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    Magnedeus's Avatar
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    Arngrim Lightheart
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    Zalera
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    That's a little mean. I literally never kick anybody and have said as much several times - if anything I'm the one who gets kicked. In that one duty finder tale I posted awhile back that healer left, nor do I ever say "git gud". I have chat logs. Plus, I wouldn't be so dumb to post something like that in the chat in the first place - I don't even curse in game. In fact I am extremely nice to new players, and very patient. Rather than kick a player I'll just leave, and I barely even do that either. I'm hurt.
    I find all of this complete bs. Anyone can say they don't do this or that in a forum post, but be the exact opposite in game. I've read some of your posts and you are being either an complete tool or an elitist.
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  8. #23288
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    I assert my dominance I take off my tank stance and shirk the healer, but that's a pretty ballsy move, rejecting a flat DPS buff.
    I like to think outside the box.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magnedeus View Post
    I find all of this complete bs. Anyone can say they don't do this or that in a forum post, but be the exact opposite in game. I've read some of your posts and you are being either an complete tool or an elitist.


    It's actually the truth, and I have several screenshots of me staying 30-40 minutes in dungeons, I didn't leave. It takes a lot to make me actually leave a duty, I do do it, but it's really rare. Even when I have accidentally queued a dungeon that would reward me nothing as a healer, I have stayed the entire time rather than leave. Not only that when other people leave I am usually one of the last to actually leave. Why would I even bother to kick players? It's completely true that I never initiate kicks on anyone, and I actually decline kicks even in alliance raids unless I think the kick is actually worthy.

    I am not "elitist" at all, I hardly even do endgame content - I'd rather do that with a group of people I know, however it's not like I even try to apply to some static or whatever. I play this game almost entirely solo. - I'm in an FC with a couple friends I've known for years from SWTOR. I do extremes frequently, but that's because I want to collect the mounts that come with them. If someone is trying to equate "you need better gear", or "do aoe" with "elitist", that's hilarious.

    My posts are extremely tame. If you want to see what I am actually thinking, or would actually like to post you can find that in my discord DM's. I would be banned immediately if I insulted people like some people here in this thread, funny that. I have never reported someone in-game (don't even know how to), nor even blacklisted a single person.

    Well, I won't lie. I occasionally right-click report RMT spam in chat.

    This one is one of my favorites:

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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 08-23-2019 at 04:36 PM.
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  9. #23289
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    Anselmet's Avatar
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    Laurent Vestra
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    Zalera
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post



    I would be banned immediately if I insulted people like some people here in this thread, funny that.
    You know what, we were being a tad mean to that person. Granted, they were feeding us with their off the wall posts which we all descended upon pretty roughly. But what I don't understand is why so many people are coming out of the woodworks to say that you're really mean on the forums. I half wonder if they're getting you mixed up with Wynn Storm. Bc other than having strong opinions I don't remember you being anywhere near as mean as we have been in the last few pages. Or at least not in recent memory I haven't seen much and I even just glanced through your recent posts. Hmm.
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  10. #23290
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I know for a fact I don't need the AST buffs. Content like Holminster Switch, Dohn Mheg, and Titania (normal) I'm pretty much carrying the entire raid/party. If anyone wants to keep up with my deeps, they need those AST buffs. Clicking an AST buff off is pretty much asserting dominance.
    Then you don't understand how percentages work.

    If you're doing say, 1000 damage, and the other DPS is doing 500 damage, then that buff is going to be TWICE as effective on YOU, making the dungeon go quicker.
    Given that an ASTs buffs are the ASTs form of damage, they are going to put it on the most effective DPS for more damage.
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