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    What you guys forget here is that the GMs ruled it as offense, too.
    So "people reporting this stuff are oversensitive" are one thing, but when the claim of harrasment has been ruled as that by the company official, it maybe is or was offensive. How about that?
    I am still sure the GameMasters have enough brain to see the timestamps, context and all that. So far, my business with the Game Masters were absolutely fine. In threads like this, there are horror stories told about things that are not even remotely true or out of context.

    Are there any real stories that you guys can tell when a GM did ban someone for "trivial" things? I mean, with screenshots and such? So far, there are 80% assumptions, such as:

    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    If the same emote is repeated over and over again then yes that's spamming. But if several emotes are used one after the other odds are they are part of a conversation. And if you report someone for that, it could be viewed as you doing the harrassing.
    Or simply still an offense to the rules, such as:
    Quote Originally Posted by Beelhi View Post
    I meant they don't care if it's silent and without chat log or full on voice/log spam :P
    If you spam, then you spam. It is obviously noted somewhere in some log that these quiet emotes were done, as the GM saw it in their logs. It is the entire emote that gets people annoyed, not just the SFX. It would be a loophole if you could annoy people with spamming emotes by just muting them, you are in fact still spamming emotes, silent or not.
    Sometimes people need to accept their wrong-doings. It's like these Otter threads where they simply needed 2 deleted threas and 2 banwaves to figure out the General Discussion is not a place for that offtopic. This answer here also contains a lot of wrong ways of thinking:

    Quote Originally Posted by Beelhi View Post
    If someone reports you for spamming (and you actually did spam) you will get a warning. I have gotten a warning for spamming a silent emote in gridania with chat log off, they don't care. My friend spammed some emotes the otherday and got pulled into prison during raid and got a warning.
    A warning is fine. You spammed an emote. Period. Not using it as intended, but over the top. And then "some friend" is being summoned to add to the story. Said friend did someting "the otherday" and has been pulled into prison. In 2015, when I got pulled into the prison for AFKing in Haukke Manor on the sofas in the lobby, the GM could not pull me out of that duty as it was an instance and they won't ruin a dungeon for other people by taking a part of the group away out of a sudden. You get your punishment afterwards. So "your friend" might not telling the truth in that matter either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
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    Reporting for tiny petty things like that is silly...

    Meanwhile bots rule the world and people being hella toxic and super rude in dungeons.
    But /Joy spam is a big no no, you big fat meanies!
    Like Jesus lmao.

    "lmao" are also free to report "hella toxic" and "super rude" people in dungeons. And AFAIK, they are dealt with the very same way with spammers (-> Parser threads). So being "hella toxic" and an annoying spammer are both things to be dealt with, and nobody gets an instant ban for emote spamming, just a warning to remind them that spamming is not a nice thing. Which is, again, sad that you have to be reminded of that in the first place. . . .

    In all the other cases counts: "No plaintiff, no judge". I do not advocate for reporting, but I neither do advocate for getting spammed at. My example earlier still matters: Two parties have different views on a matter, so let the third one decide - which is the GM.

    If you play other games like LoL, you will notice it is nice that the GMs do something (or not). When you have both games in comparison like I have, usually playing one right after the other, it is like jumping from a hole on a frozen lake into a warm whirlpool. Many of you probably forgot how nice that is and wish rather to have some sort of anarchy or something going on. I heard that from a person that got a 700€ fine for causing mess with the police, too. "Them cops, that a-hole judge! I just shoved the guy over the place. Nobody got hurt!!" Yeah, don't annoy people then..

    Sincerely,

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