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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryzn View Post
    Monks don’t because we have 4 stacks of GL we only go for 1015 and that’s it, only jobs that want skill speed are tanks and that’s around 1400 give or take a little
    SHB SAM is the job that needed Skill Speed the most, to the point that it is too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    SHB SAM is the job that needed Skill Speed the most, to the point that it is too much.
    How so?
    Unless you're going for 2 extra gcds (Hakaze + Yukikaze + Hagakure) per 60 secs rotation (roughly 2700 skill speed) then 922 skill speed is all you need.

    There is also 1700 skill speed threshold for 1 extra gcd rotation (Enpi) but I found that to be very clunky to do sometimes.
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    Last edited by mosaicex; 08-22-2019 at 02:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    How so?
    Unless you're going for 2 extra gcds (Hakaze + Yukikaze + Hagakure) per 60 secs rotation (roughly 2700 skill speed) then 922 skill speed is all you need.

    There is also 1700 skill speed threshold for 1 extra gcd rotation (Enpi) but I found that to be very clunky to do sometimes.
    This. We have significantly fewer viable SkS breakpoints than when Hagakure was truly a thing. Makes one wish we could get it back as a nearly potency-neutral 15 Kenki per Sen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    How so?
    Unless you're going for 2 extra gcds (Hakaze + Yukikaze + Hagakure) per 60 secs rotation (roughly 2700 skill speed) then 922 skill speed is all you need.

    There is also 1700 skill speed threshold for 1 extra gcd rotation (Enpi) but I found that to be very clunky to do sometimes.
    914 [2.44] and you will find it hard to keep buff on with aoe in big pull. You might also find it hard to Midare in the right time on salvage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    914 [2.44] and you will find it hard to keep buff on with aoe in big pull..
    Not at all? Both Oka and Mangetsu refresh your haste and damage buff

    Also how is 914 skill speed be considered 'too much'?

    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    You might also find it hard to Midare in the right time on salvage.
    No to this too. Can you actually give some example?
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    Last edited by mosaicex; 08-22-2019 at 10:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    Not at all? Both Oka and Mangetsu refresh your haste and damage buff

    Also how is 914 skill speed be considered 'too much'?



    No to this too. Can you actually give some example?
    Not refresh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    Not refresh.
    Extends by 15 seconds then. You only need 10.5 seconds to complete whole aoe rotation.

    So what exactly is the problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    Extends by 15 seconds then. You only need 10.5 seconds to complete whole aoe rotation.

    So what exactly is the problem?
    I shoudl leave the thinking to you. Seem like you need to re do your math or maybe run the lv 80 dungeon with 914 sks and doing salvage.
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