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    Allooutrick's Avatar
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    Alloou Trick
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    Square has been doing very well with balance in regards to the number of classes. The problem lies with the community and making such a big deal over a difference of a few percent.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Allooutrick View Post
    Square has been doing very well with balance in regards to the number of classes. The problem lies with the community and making such a big deal over a difference of a few percent.
    Its even more amusing when you realize that every job was present for week 1 E4S clears.
    The difference between the absolute top and absolute bottom was all of 2k rDPS.

    But what a lot of people don't really pay attention to is the fact that Monks and BLMs need those lower dps jobs around in order to achieve the numbers they do. Some would call it padding, But its literally what they're designed to do. Take advantage of damage buffs given by party members.

    True balance is every combination of jobs capable of clearing content. In the same vein, no it doesn't matter if 4 Dancers struggle to achieve the DPS check, because we're actively discouraged from stacking one job by design.
    For Savage content, the only consideration should be "Can this combination of jobs clear the content?"
    If the answer is yes no matter the combination, the devs have done well.

    Is everyone's dps 'perfect'? Well, no. Probably not. Most likely never will be. But the most important step was achieved, everyone cleared in Week 1. Speedruns should NOT be a balancing concern.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Its even more amusing when you realize that every job was present for week 1 E4S clears.
    This means every job is viable not necessarily balanced. You're mixing up the terms. No one is denying Ninja, Dancer or any other job can clear content. The issue is certain jobs are simply much better. Case in point, a 20% Monk contributes more rDPS than a 50% Ninja. This makes it more advantageous to bring Monk even if the player sucks because they'll still do better than an average Ninja. That, however, does not mean Ninja is so weak it cannot clear.

    And as Taiyou noted, rDPS subtracts external buffs. Even aDPS removes single target buffs like Closed Position and Astro cards. This means what you're seeing on FFlogs is roughly what Monk and Black Mage are capable of purely on their own.
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