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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo View Post
    Actually Ultima Weapon first appeared in FF6 as Atma Weapon, so original source would be FF6 not FF7. Knights of the Round is not FF7 exclusive. It appeared in Type-0 as a summon, as well as some lesser known FF iterations. Hades was also in FF5, FF9, and was a boss in an FF11 expansion; so neither is Hades exclusive to FF7.

    It just seemed like you were getting at the idea of bosses being ripped solely from FF7, when in fact many of those characters appeared in other FF titles.

    Even though I really enjoy FF lore in general, and I get a kick out of characters from some of my favorite FF games being brought to life again in FF14, I can see the need for original characters as well. It can't all be fan service I guess.
    I did not know that Hades was in FFIX thanks for clarifying that, that does make me feel slightly better about it.

    As for KotR being in Type 0, that is a spin-off game, and the only example I can think of. I doubt the dev team even looked at Type 0 when coming up with Thordan. On the topic of 2.0, look up FFVI's atma weapon, its nothing like the FFXIV ultima weapon (and was later referenced in the dungeon boss Ultima Beast), the FFXIV Ultima Weapon is based on the FFVII design.

    My opinion is less that "they are just from FFVII" and more that "FFVII is the defining appearance of this entity, and likely the inspiration for the FFXIV incarnation".


    I guess my frustration comes from loving Emet-Selch as a character, and then reducing his final battle to yet another FFVII reference (in my mind at least). Keep the same fight, keep the same design but omit the name Hades and call the boss Emet-Selch, that would make it so much better in my eyes.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 08-21-2019 at 10:41 PM.