Summoner Early Post-Launch Feedback at level 80

[CecMiller]

I think Shadowbringer's iteration is the worst I've seen of SMN after 4.0 SMN issues. I started playing since HW and I loved that SMN. I played SB SMN and it grew on me after the 4.1 changes.

I condensed everything and made sure to give even more feedback here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...r-for-5.08-5.1

RE: Aetherflow as in your post.

I definitely want to use this outside of combat. You talk of needlessly spammy openers, but the current opener is worse. I just checked my logs from logs via CPM requirements - the only difference was Aetherflow actions were considerably stronger back then and so much better to have "spammed" and the current one requires more CPM. Right now, they're not too far off egi assault power levels who's ruin 4's are used further into the opener inside bahamut as a requirement for 8 WW.

"The tag of “cannot be used outside of combat” feels bad in every situation. Too bad that add pack died before you could refresh Aetherflow. I don't see why we shouldn't bee able to use this when Sharpcast (BLM), Acceleration (RDM), Standard step (DNC), Mudras (NIN) all can be used out of combat. These can all be used pre-pull in some fashion and require some form of countdown. We don't have to wait if we're given something akin to what ninja has in the form of "hide".

If you want to reduce the "spammyness" of openers, consider deleting egi assaults in general. Further, the ability to refresh Aetherflow outside of combat increase our downtime power when looking at things from an AOE standpoint in a dungeon as you gain access to more painflares. The opener is already busy and I would personally trade egi assaults for Aetherflow actions in a heartbeat.

It is clear that this SMN iteration is not popular as it is the least played job in normal eden and trials after ninja:
(Sort by parses via clicking on parses column name at the bottom)

Eden Normal

Trials

It is carried in the savage logs by players who thought it was a safe option for progression via a raise. I suspect those numbers will also fall in time.

Stormblood SMN was a far superior version of SMN than shadowbringers. Shadowbringers did some things right, don't get me wrong. But it got a LOT of stuff wrong in the process. I'm not happy with the shadowbringers iteration at all.