Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
Zodiark represents selfish self-preservation.
Hydaelyn represents selfless sacrifice for the benefit of others.
We know nothing of Zodiark's own personality. What we do know is that the Ancients willingly sacrificed themselves to summon it twice; once to stop the apocalypse, once to make the planet habitable again. The intended third summoning was, as far as we know, supposed to bring back those that willingly gave their lives for a cause they believed in - to give back to the heroes that had so selflessly given themselves for the greater cause. The Convocation likely could not sacrifice themselves due to the risk it would pose to their race in such dire times. After all, who is to say how long those particular Ancients had been running the show? Suddenly passing the reins in the middle of an extinction level event is a good way to expedite the downfall instead of halting it.

All we know of Hydaelyn's summoning is that it was carried out by a group of dissenters that did not like the idea of sacrificing the very life Zodiark bore to bring back those whose lives were freely given. We do not know the exact number of lives given to create Hydaelyn, but we do know it was more than twelve Ancients.

None of this reads to me like the primals would be the embodiment of selfishness. I am, however, curious as to where you found these things that the Twelve were somehow involved with Hydaelyn's summoning. The only signs of the Twelve we have even seen so far are related to the Navigator, I believe. What's more, it could just as easily be that post-sundering primitives saw these symbols and concocted the Twelve on their own. We've no way to know one way or the other.

Quote Originally Posted by Kokomi View Post
Banri Oda (MSQ writer) has said that he doesn't think players will like stories that are too dark or complex, and I think this is true in general.
This is sadly true. Those of us that prefer a more nuanced approach to things are a minority. Most would rather get their feel goods from being the lolhero again.