RDM the unwelcome DPS :(

[Kejara]

If we are going by ranged, melee, cast bars, group utility etc.. Why would you place NIN dead last? And are you talking about Personal DPS or Total DPS given (personal DPS + utility buff numbers from party)

Yeah, sorry I should specified I was only talking about pDPS ranking. rDPS for Ninja should be equal to DRG/MNK in my opinion and DNC rDPS should be equal to BRD. They should never be dead last for rDPS, sorry for the confusion.

For additional clarity.
Proposed rDPS rankings:
BLM/SAM/MCH=MNK=DRG=NIN/RDM=BRD=SMN=DNC

[Atmaweapon510]

Yeah, sorry I should specified I was only talking about pDPS ranking. rDPS for Ninja should be equal to DRG/MNK in my opinion and DNC rDPS should be equal to BRD. They should never be dead last for rDPS, sorry for the confusion.

For additional clarity.
Proposed rDPS rankings:
BLM/SAM/MCH=MNK=DRG=NIN/RDM=BRD=SMN=DNC

You do know that that this proposed ranking basically states that a NIN who optimally coordinates a trick attack with every BLM in a Raid would contribute less than bringing another BLM right?

[Drayos]

You do know that that this proposed ranking basically states that a NIN who optimally coordinates a trick attack with every BLM in a Raid would contribute less than bringing another BLM right?

imma Pressume they've mistaken with the RDPS v PDPS as theres actually two individual Rankings now, being between RDPS and PDPS which counter balance each other.

RDPS Should be.

Ninja = Dancer / Bard = Summoner = RDM / Dragoon = Monk / BLM = SAM = MCH

PDPS Should be

BLM = SAM = Machinist / Monk = Dragoon / Summoner = RDM = Bard / Ninja = Dancer.

people will respond with this too "Bard has more uptime then Summoner" im ofcourse talking in fight, i am aware to balance these Summoner innately has to have a higher DPS Potiental to Actually Match bard given its Uptime is less then bard. the point is in a Live Fight they should likely look in this order. im aware that Positionings, Uptime and more are relevent also to balance which is Why ur never going to see Summoner and RDM do identical DPS. but the DPS Disparity shouldnt be Huge either roughly keeping the same sorta order.

I know Machinist being apart of the "pure DPS" Catagory seems to have some players on Edge, but ur going to have to accept, Machinist to be viable needs to be the highest Ranged physical DPS. it being Limited to being behind Dragoon/monk due to "uptime measures" is Simply incorrect. because ur not balancing in the factor that Dragoon and Monk will naturally be higher then MCH in RDPS Because MCH only offers PDPS. so the RDPS Factor will balance this out itself as a DRG/Monk will still likely out DPS it in a RDPS Setting, merely just established PDPS Will be higher when removing buffs etc etc from the measurements.