Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Komarimono]

They use the same model as every other female in this game minus lalafell.

And those models all have the same skinny and undefined musculature. The musculature is more noticeable on Viera since they actually updated the model for them and only for them. Look up a picture of a muscular woman and you'll see Viera is nothing like it.

Ya did the argument I said wouldn't work... lol Phew, that is kinda silly...

[Gwenorai]

They use the same model as every other female in this game minus lalafell.

And those models all have the same skinny and undefined musculature. The musculature is more noticeable on Viera since they actually updated the model for them and only for them. Look up a picture of a muscular woman and you'll see Viera is nothing like it.

I will agree that perhaps they should be more toned, but the issue with this is that they were following the model from previous games as well where they are 'toned' but not to the point where the muscles are showing. This is the same for female Highlander as well, toned but lacking the defined sixpack that should be expected of said race.

It actually takes a female a lot more effort and strenuous physical lifestyle to develop such muscles compared to a male.
Example; a male and a female can do the same workout and the guy will be bigger and more toned showing bigger muscle development compared to the female who will be toned but not as defined.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Ya did the argument I said wouldn't work... lol Phew, that is kinda silly...

Apes are not humans so you can't really compare them. We do have many similarities to them yes, but we are still vastly different none the less.

I'm sorry you may not find the argument acceptable, but all my thoughts and ideas are based around humans, not apes.

[SturmChurro]

Being big and bulky would be more of a 'strong' type of build, look Roe. Viera are using a human body with muscle slider at max, toned; athletic. Their body makes absolute sense for a woman who is athletic, and quick on her feet.

It actually takes a female a lot more effort and strenuous physical lifestyle to develop such muscles compared to a male.
Example; a male and a female can do the same workout and the guy will be bigger and more toned showing bigger muscle development compared to the female who will be toned but not as defined.

They would have to actively be working out, as in muscle building, and doing specific work outs to attain the musculature I think this person is envisioning. While Viera based on the lore would probably be mostly doing aerobic exercises.

[SomeRandomHuman]

I will agree that perhaps they should be more toned, but the issue with this is that they were following the model from previous games as well where they are 'toned' but not to the point where the muscles are showing. This is the same for female Highlander as well, toned but lacking the defined sixpack that should be expected of said race.

It actually takes a female a lot more effort and strenuous physical lifestyle to develop such muscles compared to a male.
Example; a male and a female can do the same workout and the guy will be bigger and more toned showing bigger muscle development compared to the female who will be toned but not as defined.

The model used is the same as the other females sans lalafell, not their model from XII. Even so, look at a female highlander at max muscle tone then look at Viera. You can still tell that the muscle tone isn't present on the Viera model.

[Komarimono]

Apes are not humans so you can't really compare them. We do have many similarities to them yes, but we are still vastly different none the less.

I'm sorry you may not find the argument acceptable, but all my thoughts and ideas are based around humans, not apes.

Except Viera are not humans though. The closest to humans we have are Hyur. Viera have always been faster and stronger then them as well, similar to an ape and a human.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Except Viera are not humans though. The closest to humans we have are Hyur. Viera have always been faster and stronger then them as well, similar to an ape and a human.

Hyur and Hrothgar is that comparison really.

Hyur to Viera is literally just tall Hyur with Bunny traits in terms of their anatomy and model so that argument won't exactly hold for long, but I do appreciate the open discussion.

[Komarimono]

Hyur and Hrothgar is that comparison really.

Hyur to Viera is literally just tall Hyur with Bunny traits in terms of their anatomy and model so that argument won't exactly hold for long, but I do appreciate the open discussion.

Going based of their stats and skills in the Tactics series. They were fast, really fast if not the fastest is what I am getting at. And they kept to that lore in the other Final Fantasy games. Such speed requires a good amount of strength too though, not bulky strength but wire like muscles under the flesh, quite similar to many of the apes and their slim appendages.

[Kyuuen]

You mean humanoid creatures that leave in the deep wood alone from even their own kind, surviving in the wild and ruthless killers, wouldn't be all soft and petite?

They would wouldn't be bulky either. If we're looking purely at people that live as hunter/gathers then a muscly-lithe like build would be closer to what they should be.

Edit

Ignore me, just saw your recent post.

[Theodric]

They would wouldn't be bulky either. If we're looking purely at people that live as hunter/gathers then a muscly-lithe like build would be closer to what they should be.

Edit

Ignore me, just saw your recent post.

They could be bulky, actually. Insofar as tribes are concerned, for some reason only those that are lean and wiry seem to be used as examples despite many tribal organisations throughout history having been possessed of bulky physiques.

I'm fine with male viera being anywhere from slightly bulkier than a Midlander to around the same level of muscle as a Highlander Hyur or Xaela/Raen men.

I just don't want them to be soft and skinny, though thankfully neither Yoshi-P or Matsuno seem to have such in mind when talking about them.