Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SomeRandomHuman]

Agreed. Telling people that they're not welcome to post here is really abhorrent behaviour. I hope to see less of that in the thread moving forward!

Because people saying other people are wrong for thinking a different way isn't really abhorrent.

If you're not open to general back and forth conversation then I'm of the mindset that you have no business in this thread.

[Theodric]

Because people saying other people are wrong for thinking a different way isn't really abhorrent.

If you're not open to general back and forth conversation then I'm of the mindset that you have no business in this thread.

Only the moderators have a say in regards to whether or not someone is welcome in a thread.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Only the moderators have a say in whether someone is or is not welcome in a thread.

You're evading the point and trying to make me the bad guy. The crime matched the crime. You just happen to agree with the person so you'd like me to poof instead despite one being rigid and unwilling to have back and forth and the other being open to it.

[Theodric]

You're evading the point and trying to make me the bad guy. The crime matched the crime. You just happen to agree with the person so you'd like me to poof instead despite one being rigid and unwilling to have back and forth and the other being open to it.

It's not really evasion so much as recognition that this thread has reached almost a thousand pages of largely recycled points of debate. I also never stated that I wanted anybody to stop posting here. Ultimately it boils down to tone policing - which is something I typically don't approve of. The poster in question was rather blunt, though I did find myself in agreement with his points despite how it was worded.

[SomeRandomHuman]

It's not really evasion so much as recognition that this thread has reached almost a thousand pages of largely recycled points of debate. I also never stated that I wanted anybody to stop posting here. Ultimately it boils down to tone policing - which is something I typically don't approve of. The poster in question was rather blunt, though I did find myself in agreement with his points despite how it was worded.

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That's more like the line of "attacking" rather than "blunt" if you ask me.

[Theodric]

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That's more like the line of "attacking" rather than "blunt" if you ask me.

I don't consider what he said to be too out there. There's nuggets of truth to be found within.

Personally my own interest in regards to male viera stems from the 'fierce forest protector' vibe that they have going for them. Some of the concept art reflects that particular angle. So, too, does some of the fan art.

Let's not beat around the bush - there's quite a few people advocating for male viera to be added in a way that doesn't reflect their lifestyle and background at all.

[Komarimono]

I don't consider what he said to be too out there. There's nuggets of truth to be found within.

Personally my own interest in regards to male viera stems from the 'fierce forest protector' vibe that they have going for them. Some of the concept art reflects that particular angle. So, too, does some of the fan art.

Let's not beat around the bush - there's quite a few people advocating for male viera to be added in a way that doesn't reflect their lifestyle and background at all.

You mean humanoid creatures that leave in the deep wood alone from even their own kind, surviving in the wild and ruthless killers, wouldn't be all soft and petite?

[SomeRandomHuman]

Personally my own interest in regards to male viera stems from the 'fierce forest protector' vibe that they have going for them. Some of the concept art reflects that particular angle. So, too, does some of the fan art.

Let's not beat around the bush - there's quite a few people advocating for male viera to be added in a way that doesn't reflect their lifestyle and background at all.

It may or it may not. It all depends on how the stylization of art portrays it as well.

My train of thought comes from the general lack of variety in the body shapes of both the genders. Lalafell is the only race not included in this since their body shape is far different, but aside from them all the males are anywhere from ripped to fairly muscular and kinda bulky while all the females are given the borderline underweight swimsuit model builds.

Lets also not forget that Viera females are just as if not even fiercer than the males yet they're given such an unfitting physique. So if females can be given an inappropriate build for what they're suppose to live like, then males could get the same treatment.

I'm open to meet in the middle. There's been several pictures in this thread that I've thought were the perfect middle-ground for both sides. Its just that those get dissected by people that don't like anything that's not big, muscular, and bulky and the cycle starts anew.

[Komarimono]

It may or it may not. It all depends on how the stylization of art portrays it as well.

My train of thought comes from the general lack of variety in the body shapes of both the genders. Lalafell is the only race not included in this since their body shape is far different, but aside from them all the males are anywhere from ripped to fairly muscular and kinda bulky while all the females are given the borderline underweight swimsuit model builds.

Lets also not forget that Viera females are just as if not even fiercer than the males yet they're given such an unfitting physique. So if females can be given an inappropriate build for what they're suppose to live like, then males could get the same treatment.

I'm open to meet in the middle. There's been several pictures in this thread that I've thought were the perfect middle-ground for both sides. Its just that those get dissected by people that don't like anything that's not big, muscular, and bulky and the cycle starts anew.

I am curious, what about the female Viera to you, does not match them when it comes to Physique? They are toned, quite tall, and very strong physically. Just please don't use the argument they are not toned enough, since if you look at Apes, they are massively strong as well and not bulky in muscle either.

[SomeRandomHuman]

I am curious, what about the female Viera to you, does not match them when it comes to Physique? They are toned, quite tall, and very strong physically. Just please don't use the argument they are not toned enough, since if you look at Apes, they are massively strong as well and not bulky in muscle either.

They use the same model as every other female in this game minus lalafell.

And those models all have the same skinny and undefined musculature. The musculature is more noticeable on Viera since they actually updated the model for them and only for them. Look up a picture of a muscular woman and you'll see Viera is nothing like it.