So what your saying is you made more assumption, more conjecture. and more guesses. Nice.

Whats nicer is you claim ifrit weapons are widely accepted as the best weapons. Thats humorous when I read the 87 threads talking about how alot of single meld items are comparable, and double meld (which are easy and cheap for various items) are surpassing them.

Do you know what aspect of damage for each class thatbase value even effects? Every sentance for your point of the debate thus far starts with, I asume, I believe, I think, then you invite me to show you information. If you actually knew any of this yourself, you would not need anyone to show you. nor would you make all this "i believe, I heard, I think, and theoretically" sentances here after 6 pages of you claiming how its fact that everyone is wrong.

As far as what you mention you know about lancer weapons, I have no doubt. Part of what I think you are mising, its that everyone is not saying so much that weapons are better then ifrit ones all the time. The fact that they are so very comparable is the issue. Comparable enough, that they are often considered not worth the effort to seek out.