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    The whole trailer is "misleading" in that every scene we see play out (except maybe Thancred and Minfilia) has elements that don't represent what really happened, or made us assume details that weren't accurate.

    The scene in the burning forest clearly somewhat happened, because the burned fort is there, and Y'shtola would have been in Rak'tika at the time. Urianger striding in making dramatic speeches about fate? Probably not, unless he's that oblivious about the appropriate time to discuss things.

    So, if that's not exactly how it happened, then I wouldn't take the details of their conversation as canon either. Or as Jojoya said, they might have been canon at the time the scene was written, but the story got altered after that.

    (That scene also had the setup for calling her "Master Matoya" and sending us into unnecessary theory meltdown for months. I would not be surprised if the entire "Night's Blessed don't use their real names" thing was written just so they could get that line in the trailer.)



    Quote Originally Posted by Nyvara View Post
    Good point, I assumed Urianger wasn't there when it burned but he may have been and may have told the WoL, but honestly unless the twins are telling me something I don't pay him any mind.
    Don't tune him out. He has a lot of important dialogue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The scene in the burning forest clearly somewhat happened, because the burned fort is there, and Y'shtola would have been in Rak'tika at the time. Urianger striding in making dramatic speeches about fate? Probably not, unless he's that oblivious about the appropriate time to discuss things.
    I mean, it is Urianger...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    (That scene also had the setup for calling her "Master Matoya" and sending us into unnecessary theory meltdown for months. I would not be surprised if the entire "Night's Blessed don't use their real names" thing was written just so they could get that line in the trailer.)
    Imo the entire "Master Matoya" bit in the story was completely and utterly unnecessary. It had absolutely no plot relevance at all. Including it in the trailer did nothing but generate a bunch of wild theories that turned out inaccurate. I also think its rather stupid, too. For one, let's buy this idea and say none of the members of the Night's Blessed used their real names. Of all the names Y'Shotla could've chosen, why did it have to be that one, the same as her Master's? Also, why was Urianger calling her 'Master Matoya" in the trailer? I would get it if one of the Night's Members called her that, neither he nor anyone else one calls her that after we leave the Greatwood
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    Quote Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD View Post
    Imo the entire "Master Matoya" bit in the story was completely and utterly unnecessary. It had absolutely no plot relevance at all. Including it in the trailer did nothing but generate a bunch of wild theories that turned out inaccurate. I also think its rather stupid, too. For one, let's buy this idea and say none of the members of the Night's Blessed used their real names. Of all the names Y'Shotla could've chosen, why did it have to be that one, the same as her Master's? Also, why was Urianger calling her 'Master Matoya" in the trailer? I would get it if one of the Night's Members called her that, neither he nor anyone else one calls her that after we leave the Greatwood
    To be fair, she does it literally because of the group of people in the woods. Outside the woods, there is no reason for it.
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