COMPLAINT: Can't progress level 79 story quest until level 80 role quest complete?

[AphraelAmarantha]

If you only need 8 mil, just run Mt. Gulg one more time. No need to even do roulettes, as that dungeon should give you enough EXP to level up. Then you can complete your level 80 role quest, return to The Tempest, and turn in the level 79 quest. Make sure you speak with Totally-Not-Gerolt again, as he will furnish you with your level 80 artifact gear for whichever job you are playing completely for free.

Either way, you were going to get level locked after this quest, as the next four MSQ are level 80. Better to get the level lock out of the way sooner rather than after, in my opinion.

I'm just going to do leveling roulettte again once reset hits and im done with real life here. And not a fan of Mt. Gulg, it's really hard to heal there, not as The Vault but its pretty bad. Then again, I really suck at the game and just want to do the story lol.

Oh, how hard is the last role quest anyway? I heard it is rather difficult and that doesnt bode well for me since Im terrible at the game. I would hate to have to quit because I cant beat the role quest.

[HyoMinPark]

I'm just going to do leveling roulettte again once reset hits and im done with real life here. And not a fan of Mt. Gulg, it's really hard to heal there, not as The Vault but its pretty bad. Then again, I really suck at the game and just want to do the story lol.

Oh, how hard is the last role quest anyway? I heard it is rather difficult and that doesnt bode well for me since Im terrible at the game. I would hate to have to quit because I cant beat the role quest.

Neither Mt. Gulg or the level 80 healer role quest are hard. Having healed Mt. Gulg before on two healers (WHM and AST) and done the 80 role quest, you’re worrying for no reason. By all means, wait for Roulette reset, but I still think it would be better to just do Mt. Gulg. You risk getting it in Leveling Roulette tomorrow anyways if you’re level 79, and that will be a substantial waste of Roulette experience in the event you have other jobs you want to also level.

[AphraelAmarantha]

Neither Mt. Gulg or the level 80 healer role quest are hard. Having healed Mt. Gulg before on two healers (WHM and AST) and done the 80 role quest, you’re worrying for no reason. By all means, wait for Roulette reset, but I still think it would be better to just do Mt. Gulg. You risk getting it in Leveling Roulette tomorrow anyways if you’re level 79, and that will be a substantial waste of Roulette experience in the event you have other jobs you want to also level.

YOU find Mt. Gulg not that difficult. I find it quite difficult. Why does no one ever consider that someone's super easy is another's hard? This is becoming very very irritating. Just stop. Please. Thanks.

And no, Im only leveling Whm so no worries there lol. I want to level dancer and try it out but I suck at this game, particularly dpsing so Im not going to bother. I'll stick with whm, thx.

[HyoMinPark]

YOU find Mt. Gulg not that difficult. I find it quite difficult. Why does no one ever consider that someone's super easy is another's hard? This is becoming very very irritating. Just stop. Please. Thanks.

And no, Im only leveling Whm so no worries there lol. I want to level dancer and try it out but I suck at this game, particularly dpsing so Im not going to bother. I'll stick with whm, thx.

Plenty of people find Mt. Gulg not hard—especially on WHM, which is by far the healer that has the easiest time in dungeons right now. You can calm down. It’s irritating to see people brushing off the advice of others simply due to stubbornness. By all means, you do you, but just know that your Leveling Roulette could give you Mt. Gulg tomorrow anyways. Such is the way of a roulette.

As for leveling DPS, that’s also not hard. DNC has a very easy learning curve, as it’s mostly using your dances on cooldown, doing a 1-2 combo, and reacting to procs. DPS generally have it the easiest in most casual content—far more easier than tanks or healers, who tend to be shouldered with the majority of the responsibility and the first to blame when things start heading south. However, if you’re going to remain afraid of trying new things, well, no one can convince you otherwise. I think you shouldn’t be afraid as none of this is nearly as hard or scary as you’re making it out to be, but that is just my opinion.

Good luck on your gaming adventures.

[AphraelAmarantha]

Plenty of people find Mt. Gulg not hard—especially on WHM, which is by far the healer that has the easiest time in dungeons right now. You can calm down. It’s irritating to see people brushing off the advice of others simply due to stubbornness. By all means, you do you, but just know that your Leveling Roulette could give you Mt. Gulg tomorrow anyways. Such is the way of a roulette.

As for leveling DPS, that’s also not hard. DNC has a very easy learning curve, as it’s mostly using your dances on cooldown, doing a 1-2 combo, and reacting to procs. DPS generally have it the easiest in most casual content—far more easier than tanks or healers, who tend to be shouldered with the majority of the responsibility and the first to blame when things start heading south. However, if you’re going to remain afraid of trying new things, well, no one can convince you otherwise. I think you shouldn’t be afraid as none of this is nearly as hard or scary as you’re making it out to be, but that is just my opinion.

Good luck on your gaming adventures.

Nevermind, you obviously don't get it, so whatever. And yes I just got Mt. Gulg again and people died again and ugh, I really hate doing that dungeon, its so hard to heal in there.

Anyway, yeah, I try to make people understand how hard it is for me, but no one gets it, I dont understand what Im not getting across or not here, but whatever. I give up trying to convince people. I'm tired of explaining over and over why its so hard and why advice I try to put into practice just never works for me. I did the same with RDM, I even posted a video, tried peoples advice, and just never got better after trying and tryign and trying and trying. Its not that I dont take advice, I get frustrated because people like you don't get it and I dont know any other way how to explain to you that IT IS VERY HARD. I get that its not hard for you, but thats not the case for everyone. Im horrible with dpsing, so no Im not going to risk fucking it up for 3 or 8 other people with trying to learn dance, no matter how much I want to try the class out. Its hard enough for me to heal, but at least im comfortable with it except when tanks want to pull wall to wall. I would rather do small pulls, I can handle that lel.

Anyway, tired of ranting, I doubt the devs will see this complaint, but I had to post it anyway. It still stupid and the quest should have been 80 to begin with.

[HyoMinPark]

Nevermind, you obviously don't get it, so whatever. And yes I just got Mt. Gulg again and people died again and ugh, I really hate doing that dungeon, its so hard to heal in there.

Anyway, yeah, I try to make people understand how hard it is for me, but no one gets it, I dont understand what Im not getting across or not here, but whatever. I give up trying to convince people. I'm tired of explaining over and over why its so hard and why advice I try to put into practice just never works for me. I did the same with RDM, I even posted a video, tried peoples advice, and just never got better after trying and tryign and trying and trying. Its not that I dont take advice, I get frustrated because people like you don't get it and I dont know any other way how to explain to you that IT IS VERY HARD. I get that its not hard for you, but thats not the case for everyone. Im horrible with dpsing, so no Im not going to risk fucking it up for 3 or 8 other people with trying to learn dance, no matter how much I want to try the class out. Its hard enough for me to heal, but at least im comfortable with it except when tanks want to pull wall to wall. I would rather do small pulls, I can handle that lel.

Anyway, tired of ranting, I doubt the devs will see this complaint, but I had to post it anyway. It still stupid and the quest should have been 80 to begin with.

You seem very concerned with your own performance. The best you can do is keep trying regardless of however hard or hopeless it seems. That’s the only way to get better. Giving up won’t get you anywhere other than frustrated, as you are now. I can’t speak on this RDM video or how many times you’ve tried before, but if you threw up your hands as quickly as you have at me in this thread about healing, then I don’t know what to really say to you. You aren’t even going to try DNC, convinced that you’ll somehow fail. You never know until you try, and you’ll never get better if you don’t keep trying.

Contrary to what you think, I do understand how difficult things can be when you try them for the first time. I was new once, too. This was my first MMO, and I’ve never really been a big gamer, so things like this were very different for me; but I’ve come a long way since I first started due to my own sheer stubbornness of never giving up. Not to mention, I have a wonderful group of friends to encourage me even when I do feel frustrated—which does still happen, by the way. Even now.

I don’t have much else to say to you on this topic other than good luck.



With regards to the complaint, I doubt that this will change. The developers designed the MSQ like this intentionally, probably as a way to force players into doing their role quests and getting their artifact gear, as that has often been a complaint on here that players show up undergeared to the final dungeons and trials of an expansion. So, I suppose this was their way of gently forcing it.

[AphraelAmarantha]

With regards to the complaint, I doubt that this will change. The developers designed the MSQ like this intentionally, probably as a way to force players into doing their role quests and getting their artifact gear, as that has often been a complaint on here that players show up undergeared to the final dungeons and trials of an expansion. So, I suppose this was their way of gently forcing it.

Kind of odd since you don't get level 80 artifact gear from doing the role quests, so I am not for sure if that is really their intention. But whatever.

EDIT: Oops, nvm, just saw the gear in the msq.

[HyoMinPark]

Kind of odd since you don't get level 80 artifact gear from doing the role quests, so I am not for sure if that is really their intention. But whatever.

After turning in the item you receive from the role quest to Totally-Not-Gerolt, you're able to get i430 AF gear from him for free. The game tells you as such. No need for you to continue to be hostile about this simply because people disagree with you on its necessity.

[MrMagic]

I doubt the devs will see this complaint, but I had to post it anyway. It still stupid and the quest should have been 80 to begin with.

As people have said before, it's the very last quest before the level 80 quests. It's such a trivial thing whether the quests lands at the beginning of 80 or the end of 79. You're still going to need to / have had to gain that 7 mil experience and the difference is a single quest.

I kind of like that it prompts you to level up to a fresh 80 and return, because it rewards you with i430 gear. Yay I can finally replace my non-augmented Scaeven gear and stop being a burden on my party. Maybe the devs had a plan all along.

[GutsyBoozetank]

I was overleveled from roulettes and was already lvl 80 when the MSQ was still at lvl 78. Didn't even know this was a thing until my cousin got to Gerolt from the first and had to lvl that last little bit. He did one msq roulette and that put him at 80. He didn't even complain about it!