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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibkee View Post
    The elitism here is staggering.

    You begrudge others enjoying FFXIV being the way it was designed and bemoan the lack of games that scratch your own itch in one of the most self-centered rants I've seen. Such hatred and vitriol towards people for liking stuff you don't is unhealthy.

    Let's take a step back here, why don't you play FFXI? It's still alive after all. Retail still ticks along and there are private servers if you want the HNM/Sky/Limbus/Dynamis/ToAU stuff experience at 75. WoW Classic is coming in a few weeks, maybe that will scratch your itch?
    Lol! This is the biggest case of projection I have ever seen. All raiders have been doing is asking for content, with no intention of hurting the casual community. Meanwhile, the casual community has been actively rallying to block raiders from getting any content while bragging about all the content that they have to do, EVEN THOUGH RAIDERS GETTING MORE CONTENT WILL BARELY IF AT ALL AFFECT THE CASUAL'S GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCE. To fight so hard so that raiders can't get any more of a piece of their already tiny slice of pie while you horde 95% shows a clear hatred towards raiders.

    I don't begrudge casuals for enjoying FFXIV the way they want to. All I'm saying is, let me voice my criticisms towards the dev team instead of telling me to just shut up and deal with it? The hypocrisy in this thread is staggering.

    If you think I'm begrudging it's because you're all trying to silence me. Imagine if invaders take over your city, you try to live amicably with them, you try to talk in a civil manner with them, but all they say back to you is 'stfu and deal with it' or, 'get out.' Whom are the ones being elitist towards whom here? You guys aren't even indifferent towards raiders, you HATE them.


    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    The issue here is this isn't even about 14 anymore, you have an issue with MMO's in general and despite there being others far closer to what you want (not exactly obviously) you've decided to make 14 your battleground.
    You keep meshing two arguments into one, you want 14 to have more content you like but also claim MMO's have been "ruined" by "casuals" and keep using one to try and argue the other.
    You also keep using the argument that the game would be "better" if it gives you what you want, yet the game has continued to grow, make more money and get bigger since its relaunch, everything you say is being proven false by the game, and all your evidence is "I bet there's!" "Imagine how many!" "I'm sure there's!" The clear rates for the hard content have always been low, this isn't something new, you're in the minority and you get content, it isn't enough for you, but it's as much as the devs feel they can provide without detracting from their content scheduled and they have added to the formula with Ultimate.

    A lot of people from both sides agree this shouldn't be an us Vs them debate but you keep making it one with your attitude that "casuals" somehow "owe" you because they "ruined" the genre for you and so they should give up content for you.
    The sad part is a lot of us wouldn't mind you getting more content but we also understand that it comes at a price and with the ratio of people who'd do it Vs those who'd do easier content is a tough sell and likely you'll never get much more than perhaps a BA like bit of content thrown in.

    You've picked one of the worst MMO's for your battle yet are convinced those who are happy owe you because you're not happy and it's their fault.
    MMO's changed because this is what the majority want, if you aren't happy with 14 after 6 years you either need to reevaluate how you enjoy the game or take Yoshi's advice and seek what you want else where and if no MMO is to your liking at all then I'm sorry and that sucks but that's very much a you problem. There are several and they all play differently, hell, Classic WoW is on the way, perhaps if you like MMO's of old that'll hopefully be to your liking.
    Nah, if you read earlier in the thread I was trying to make suggestions, but the casual crowd came at me with swords out, giving me no choice but to defend myself from the onslaught. The best way to make someone hostile is to persecute and isolate them for having ideas, which the people in this thread have done splendidly. It's clear you do not want us to have a voice.
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    Last edited by Zabuza; 08-12-2019 at 12:25 AM.

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