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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendalwind View Post
    Wat.

    MNK, DRG, SAM, and NIN all need to be viable. Nerfing MNK and DRG to SMN levels would destroy them.

    MNK needs a slight nerf, cause there are moments where its pDPS exceeds even that of BLM, and that is a problem. That should never happen.
    This also tells me BLM doesn't need a nerf.
    DRG should stay exactly where its at, for the most part its pDPS is still lower than SAM, but its rDPS is higher at 75th, exactly where it should start to exceed. IMO DRG and BLM are the closest to exactly where they should be of all the dps classes.
    SAM needs to be buffed closer to BLM levels but not quite there cause it can benefit from a slightly broader range of dps buffs.
    NIN needs a massive buff, for so many reasons, and hopefully the buff comes mostly through QoL changes rather than just potency tosses.
    SMN/RDM need buffs, but the amount is questionable because of how Raise is right now.
    Same story for all the Ranged, DNC needs the buff most of all but IMO their dps output should be a bit higher in general. Ranged mobility tax is a bit to high right now.
    I'm talking about raid DPS by the way.
    They would be viable either way. MNK & DRG have utility like SMN (and all the classes doing less damage than SMN)
    NIN should be on par with those including their Trick Attack utility (personal DPS should be lower though.)

    I think if classes like SAM & MCH would get buffed to BLM lvls (due to them not having utility either.) some other classes should be nerfed a little to not just overbuff & make content easier as well.
    And the no DPS utility classes should have higher personal DPS than those with utility.

    I think we can't just buff everything though. Like sure SMN might need a buff too but like I said before, can't buff everything and i think, looking at these stats, SMN is a good middleground. Classes below need some buffs, classes above need some nerfs (except those without utility, those deserve to be quite a bit higher like BLM.)

    And maybe I worded myself a bit wrongly. I don't mean DRG & MNK need the exact same dps as SMN but they should be brought down a little to be more on par with SMN (maybe slightly higher.)

    When it comse to ranged, I think both DNC & MCH need serious buffs. DNC dps is just way too low despite their dps utility. And there's 0 reason to take a MCH, no dps utility and does less damage than DRG & MNK which both have utility.

    Most urgent ones imo are buffs to DNC, MCH, RDM, NIN. MNK really needs a nerf, DRG isn't too bad. It's just that the non utility DPS like SAM & MCH do too little DPS compared to DRG.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sequora View Post
    How about we treat casters like ranged. RDM can be high utility low DPS and SMN can be medium utility, medium DPS.
    Kinda agree. But when it comes to DPS utility both RDM & SMN have about the same. Only difference is that RDM can res faster than SMN can. I don't think RDM's damage should be that much below SMN's damage because of that.
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    Last edited by IchiExorz; 08-11-2019 at 12:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IchiExorz View Post
    And the no DPS utility classes should have higher personal DPS than those with utility.
    The above phrase makes no sense.
    Other than that I agree with most of your sentiments.

    Literally dont know what you meant here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendalwind View Post
    The above phrase makes no sense.
    Other than that I agree with most of your sentiments.

    Literally dont know what you meant here.
    Sorry I just meant that classes without DPS utility should have more personal DPS than those who do have DPS utility.
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