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  1. #171
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    HWalsh's Avatar
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    Ameliana Desalian
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 74
    What I want:

    1. More diversity in dungeon mechanics.

    I want to see dungeon mechanics that go beyond: pull group, kill group, once in a while grab a thing. Give me some (non-static) puzzles.

    Make me explore the dungeon a bit. Give me s boss room with three entrances, but only one of them is open, let me not know which path to take.

    One of my favorite dungeons has a mechanic where you have to lure a giant head onto a platform to kill it. Why does nothing like that show up again?

    Give me some different boss mechanics. Give me a boss that explodes into a dozen snakes that have to be lured together onto a plate so they turn back into a whole monster. Or a monster that splits into two each time it is killed.

    Don't just make me tank and spank.

    2. Give me more roles to play.

    I'm tired of just Tank/Healer/DPS give me some new roles.

    3. Give me more customization options.

    Not every level 73 Paladin should have the *exact* same abilities. Some should be better at tanking, some should do more DPS, I should be able to customize myself more.
    (6)

  2. #172
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    gman1311's Avatar
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    Greg Eugen
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HWalsh View Post
    What I want:

    1. More diversity in dungeon mechanics.

    I want to see dungeon mechanics that go beyond: pull group, kill group, once in a while grab a thing. Give me some (non-static) puzzles.

    Make me explore the dungeon a bit. Give me s boss room with three entrances, but only one of them is open, let me not know which path to take.

    One of my favorite dungeons has a mechanic where you have to lure a giant head onto a platform to kill it. Why does nothing like that show up again?

    Give me some different boss mechanics. Give me a boss that explodes into a dozen snakes that have to be lured together onto a plate so they turn back into a whole monster. Or a monster that splits into two each time it is killed.

    Don't just make me tank and spank.

    2. Give me more roles to play.

    I'm tired of just Tank/Healer/DPS give me some new roles.

    3. Give me more customization options.

    Not every level 73 Paladin should have the *exact* same abilities. Some should be better at tanking, some should do more DPS, I should be able to customize myself more.
    If the formula ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
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  3. #173
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    RyuSaarva's Avatar
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    Ryu Saarva
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    you may want more options but they are useless because people only use the best skills and the fastest route to clear content and because ninja is not op anymore, I have not seen a single ninja in shadow bringers.
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  4. #174
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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
    World
    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Also, they said the new raid gear is wearable by both genders. Why is something like that even considered
    ...because people have been asking for it....
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  5. #175
    Player
    HWalsh's Avatar
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    Ameliana Desalian
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    you may want more options but they are useless because people only use the best skills and the fastest route to clear content and because ninja is not op anymore, I have not seen a single ninja in shadow bringers.
    So make sure that there is no "best" option.

    The fact that there ARE different jobs PROVES that it can be done.
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  6. #176
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    Haruka_R's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Fenix Starfire
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    I have not seen a single ninja in shadow bringers.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by HWalsh View Post
    What I want:

    1. More diversity in dungeon mechanics.

    I want to see dungeon mechanics that go beyond: pull group, kill group, once in a while grab a thing. Give me some (non-static) puzzles.

    Make me explore the dungeon a bit. Give me s boss room with three entrances, but only one of them is open, let me not know which path to take.

    One of my favorite dungeons has a mechanic where you have to lure a giant head onto a platform to kill it. Why does nothing like that show up again?

    Give me some different boss mechanics. Give me a boss that explodes into a dozen snakes that have to be lured together onto a plate so they turn back into a whole monster. Or a monster that splits into two each time it is killed.

    Don't just make me tank and spank.

    2. Give me more roles to play.

    I'm tired of just Tank/Healer/DPS give me some new roles.

    3. Give me more customization options.

    Not every level 73 Paladin should have the *exact* same abilities. Some should be better at tanking, some should do more DPS, I should be able to customize myself more.
    You will NEVER see that in dungeons. Why? You can't even get people to slow down or get all the rooms opened in dungeons NOW. Once the playerbase finds the fastest way possible that is ALL you're going to get. All other options WILL be skipped. Again, the old dungeons with more rooms now. People WILL skip all options and go for the fastest easyist way possible.
    (13)

  8. #178
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    gman1311's Avatar
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    Character
    Greg Eugen
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertcoins View Post
    You will NEVER see that in dungeons. Why? You can't even get people to slow down or get all the rooms opened in dungeons NOW. Once the playerbase finds the fastest way possible that is ALL you're going to get. All other options WILL be skipped. Again, the old dungeons with more rooms now. People WILL skip all options and go for the fastest easyist way possible.
    Pretty much this. Unless the rewards are great like rare mats or a mount, I’m skipping those extra rooms.
    (7)

  9. #179
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by gman1311 View Post
    Pretty much this. Unless the rewards are great like rare mats or a mount, I’m skipping those extra rooms.
    Pretty much. I'd say stick with the regular dungeon formula, and if they want to do something like that add it to deep dungeon or something. Have it lead to cosmetic rewards, titles, achievements. An in depth deep dungeon for example, puzzles, etc.
    (3)
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  10. #180
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    TankHunter678's Avatar
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    Selena Zensh
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BHolland View Post
    I really just want Japanese players opinions and questions cause they seem to be the only ones wanting a better game and not to cater to some "Social Agenda".
    Well the Japanese players flooded them with a ton of questions regarding healers, bard, and many other topics. Suffice to say the healers were all but ignored and bard was given a "try to be civil we are listening" type of response.
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