Ninja is weak, like very weak.

[Akonyl]

NIN shouldn't ever be behind tanks, but yeah they seem like they're in a pretty bad spot right now. My group's nin had to go drg on sunday to get us enough dps to clear titan savage, and that was including the fact that we already had a drg and didn't get a melee lb3 at the end because of it. He was lamenting the whole time how much more fun he was having on drg + how many less buttons he had to use to still outperform his nin despite being a nin main.

[VirusChris]

A 10% rdps difference between a jobs and other jobs in the same role is huge when battle content is entirely designed around dps checks, my friend. The current state of NIN is one of the worst balance issues the game has ever had, probably surpassing MNK and BLM depressing condition in 3.X. Considering the relative balance that was achieved at the end of Stormblood, it's quite surprising that the dev team made such a mistake.

Anyway, devs just acknowledged NIN issues in the last LL. A rework plus adjustmenta are coming and they are a priority. NIN main rejoice.

Where's a link to the LL? I like to see it.

I'm happy they're going to address NIN adjustments. I love NIN and beat ShB with it despite the issues it had, but yeah. I notice even my Tanks doing better than it.
I'll feel happy if they make NIN excellent at least in pDPS. Also is it true that TA is ONLY used to increase the damage dealt by NIN and not by the party? Why would they nerf it like that?

[TaiyouSeishin]

Where's a link to the LL? I like to see it.

I'm happy they're going to address NIN adjustments. I love NIN and beat ShB with it despite the issues it had, but yeah. I notice even my Tanks doing better than it.
I'll feel happy if they make NIN excellent at least in pDPS. Also is it true that TA is ONLY used to increase the damage dealt by NIN and not by the party? Why would they nerf it like that?

It technically DOES boost their dps, but your own lacking dps just nullifies it. And for purpose of rdps the dps that is generated from TA is factored in for the NIN. The only issue is that TA requires people to work with you, and even that doesnt equal out.

Tl;dr - basically its just that instead of showing raw dos values, the value of TA for the nin is accounted for

[AniKai]

I liked NIN back in the day. Not so much anymore. I don't know raw numbers to pull, but doing Trust with equal level NIN and SAM, SAM completes the shebang multiple minutes faster. Then again, maybe I'm just better with SAM than NIN overall -shrug-

[Kaedan]

Where's a link to the LL? I like to see it.

I'm happy they're going to address NIN adjustments. I love NIN and beat ShB with it despite the issues it had, but yeah. I notice even my Tanks doing better than it.
I'll feel happy if they make NIN excellent at least in pDPS. Also is it true that TA is ONLY used to increase the damage dealt by NIN and not by the party? Why would they nerf it like that?

Q1:
As a ninja player in Savage, when comparing DPS with other melee DPS I feel like the potency increase to Gust Slash was not enough for our overall damage. Our damage feels lacking for the amount of difficulty when playing the job. Any plans for ninja adjustment?

A1:
Many players provided feedback regarding ninja, so we touched on the topics via a presentation slide.

The development team believes the following three points are the main issues

◆Ninjutsu and mudra combinations being disrupted by GCD timing causes clunkiness.
Ninjutsu is easily influenced by lag, and we were reaching a limit as to how we could adjust it, so we are planning to restructure ninjutsu itself. The playstyle of putting together mudra will remain, but they will not be weaved between GCDs.

Instead, we are thinking the playstyle will be something along the lines of:
Use a combo > use ninjutsu > return to combo

However this adjustment would require readjusting ninja’s entire DPS, so we were unable to make the adjustments in time for patch 5.05. Therefore these adjustments will be made in patch 5.1.
◆Too many inputs are required to perform rotations for maximum damage output.
We are reconsidering the combo rotation.
◆The party utility of Trick Attack and ninja’s total damage output need to be balanced.
We will be increasing ninja's personal damage in patch 5.08. However, Trick Attack has a lot of influence over the party’s DPS, so the values will be adjusted with this in mind. Additionally, as mentioned above, please keep in mind that these adjusted values may be readjusted again in patch 5.1

This is the summary from the LL about NIN. Here is the link to thread with Bayohne's translations:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/400887-Letter-from-the-Producer-LIVE-Part-LIII-Update-Thread

[SamSmoot]

Q1:
As a ninja player in Savage, when comparing DPS with other melee DPS I feel like the potency increase to Gust Slash was not enough for our overall damage. Our damage feels lacking for the amount of difficulty when playing the job. Any plans for ninja adjustment?

I'm surprised they even answered this, since we're not supposed to know our DPS.

[Darkstride]

I'm surprised they even answered this, since we're not supposed to know our DPS.

Without a parser, you can still easily tell that Ninja is not pulling the same DPS as others. If you play more than one job, you feel the difference yourself.

[Vivi_Bushido]

Would people even be okay if the devs took Trick Attack away?

[RyuSaarva]

Would people even be okay if the devs took Trick Attack away?

I would rather have that high damage skill back which you had to use in front of enemies which shared the trick attack cooldown, it was much more fun to use.

[Haruka_R]

Would people even be okay if the devs took Trick Attack away?

For most ninjas, yes. For static dudes, probably not.