Quote Originally Posted by TaiyouSeishin View Post
All the debates keep going from one extreme to another.

Summoner rdps shouldnt meet or exceed blm rdps because it brings more than the dps increasing utility.

Nin amd dragoon, conversly dont bring anything but dps increase utility, if that utility dont increase total dps, they may as well not exist. But you dont want them to outright trump pdps. A NIN's TA benefits more than just one person, so their pdps needs to be lower, and thats fine, but THEIR issue is that their own pdps nullifies TA, and if TA just breaks even, their is no point to bring them either.

You shouldn't have to work and synergize with a class just to make them break even with their more powerful counterparts.
Except, bringing a NIN isn't just the NIN's job to compensate for, and does come with benefits not necessarily felt in kill speed, namely burst.

When I'm running with raid (de)buffs, gameplay changes slightly. This is perhaps most significant with TA since it's short, frequent, and potent. Yes, the NIN cannot control the contribution given by their Trick Attack except through what little pDPS they personally apply during the buff, but by that very fact it doesn't mean that the responsibility for making use of TA belongs to NIN alone. The NIN's responsibility is to keep it rolling as frequently and (thereby) consistently as possible with few exceptions. Everyone else's responsibility is banking burst for it.

Should parties be compensated for this added complexity? Yes, faintly. But, they already are. So long as NIN is, itself, bursty, the burst that comes from bringing NIN (and therefore TA) -- especially to a composition with flexible oGCD expenditure such as through non-CD sources -- is greater than without one. The sustained might not increase by much, but that is okay, so long as that added burst occasionally has utility advantage, such as by reducing risk over a brief soft enrage (e.g. via powerful adds) or the like.