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  1. #9241
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    Kobalos's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berret_Snow View Post
    Yup, right now the Hrothgar's hairstyles are stuck to the faces and Viera have limited hair options, not to mention that not all headgear works on them. Yet they want to rush m!Viera to have a new toy to play with while the current races need way more polish like Arngrim said.
    You played the game this long with M!Viera you'll be fine.
    Aye if male buns and Lady lions are to become a thing I don't want SE to rush them, they already worked themselves thin with the new races and expansion. So here's hoping for helms and hair do's at some point.
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  2. #9242
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    Male viera and female hrothgar will most likely be the same way, they already said they aren’t making it where female viera and male hrothgar can use all the hairstyles, they will slowly just get new specific hair styles for them only. This was said on the live letter, so basically to them they are “done” they will just slowly add hairstyles. I don’t see why they can’t add all hairstyles because the ears already clip and don’t involve the ears.. and they do miqote ears so what’s the problem?
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  3. #9243
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana-Chan View Post
    Male viera and female hrothgar will most likely be the same way, they already said they aren’t making it where female viera and male hrothgar can use all the hairstyles, they will slowly just get new specific hair styles for them only. This was said on the live letter, so basically to them they are “done” they will just slowly add hairstyles. I don’t see why they can’t add all hairstyles because the ears already clip and don’t involve the ears.. and they do miqote ears so what’s the problem?
    They might want to do equal treatment with the limited races; don't want to give more to one than the other. Could also be that if they are going to spend the time to edit them they would rather just do new unique stuff.

    I do NOT agree with whatever take they come up with. They designed themselves in a corner with hrothgar, having limited headgear is one thing for viera, but hairstyles is ridiculous. I have paid for several hairstyles, earned most of the ones in the game, I want my hair. The very least they could do is add those for the viera. It's hair. How much work could it really take to adapt those to the viera head (which has been proven to be the exact same) compared to creating a handful of new exclusive hairstyles? I'll say one thing, their had better be several new hairstyles, and they better be good.

    I am not "ungrateful" either, paying customers should expect quality. I paid a lot of money for the hair, and worked hard for the other hair. They need to fix this, these rushed races aren't complete. Ridiculous. I don't know who is mismanaging what, but that needs to be fixed.

    Limiting hair specifically for viera is a conscious decision.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 08-08-2019 at 07:49 AM.

  4. #9244
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    Agreed. I don’t think their stance is really acceptable, and it’s time for them to cease with the excuses.
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  5. #9245
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Had to unblock ya real quick to quote this and give you a wake up call.

    Japanese companies don't care about the complaints from western journalists. They don't care about sexism they don't care about gender politics, they simply give no hoots about what people want in that regard. And while it may be nice to get Male Viera and Female Horthgar, it aint happening anytime soon if ever. Probably never from how over worked they all are getting the new content ready with future patches while also tying in the next expansion.

    They are making plenty of money to not care, so they don't. They are doing what they want, and that's all they have to do.
    id agree with you if not for the fact that they vastly profit more from their western audience than their native audience
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  6. #9246
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    I mean I’m not a developer but I feel like them creating more hairstyles for the limited races would just be more work if they also had new hairs for everyone else... they made it work with miqote so how hard would it be for viera or hrothgar?
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  7. #9247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Agreed. I don’t think their stance is really acceptable, and it’s time for them to cease with the excuses.
    This is mismanagement pure and simple. They are consiously stating that they are done. They released a half finished product, literally. Actually less than half because not only are we missing genders, but we are missing everything else. Too much is too much, and enough is enough. They put it into the game, I expect them to finish it. End of story. They are not finished, I don't care what they say. A handful of hairstyles or new faces for hrothgar - who have to pay for a fantasia just to change pretty much anything - is NOT asking for a lot. The hairstyles are already made.

    They chose to design them this way, customers shouldn't be content with this. They are choosing not to finish them. Prospects for a male viera/female hrothgar are extremely slim if they can't even do that.

    No, I don't want to read some argument about resources or it taking away from the "quality" of the game. Again, they added them, they need to finish it. I am completely demoralized. Might as well switch to Elezen, at this rate even with the long necks and small heads I can wear hats, and have all my hair, or back to au ra. Au Ra a race added with an expansion, both genders huge horns popping out of the side of their heads and STILL can wear all headgear and have hairstyles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yana-Chan View Post
    I mean I’m not a developer but I feel like them creating more hairstyles for the limited races would just be more work if they also had new hairs for everyone else... they made it work with miqote so how hard would it be for viera or hrothgar?
    For sure. The hairstyles that we paid for/earned are already there, all for viera at least it would take would be adapting it to the head - which is shaped the same. I think the ears may be a little closer to the head, but surely adapting it even with ears would be less work than making an entire new hairstyle, considering they would have to make a concept as well. Right?
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 08-08-2019 at 08:09 AM.
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  8. #9248
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    id agree with you if not for the fact that they vastly profit more from their western audience than their native audience
    Their western audience is also not by and large swayed by such concerns. Whilst gender locking may not sit well with it, neither do accusations of sexism; it is a minority of western players who are amenable to such an angle.
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  9. #9249
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    Seems like complaining and having concerns don’t work anymore, that live letter was a joke. They only answered like 3 of the questions on the actual thread? I don’t mind waiting on male viera but it would be nice to hear anything so I know they aren’t trying to ignore it from happening.
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  10. #9250
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana-Chan View Post
    Seems like complaining and having concerns don’t work anymore, that live letter was a joke. They only answered like 3 of the questions on the actual thread? I don’t mind waiting on male viera but it would be nice to hear anything so I know they aren’t trying to ignore it from happening.
    What makes you think you are entitled to have your male viera? If the dev team doesn`t want to have a playable male Viera race it is not the complaining of militant western journalists and subscribers that will change the intended way of the game.

    Male vieras are rare and they live in hidden places, makes no sense to have 200 of then in Limsa Lominsa.

    Expect to have a male bunny character in the MSQ but not much more than that.
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