In-depth analysis of the housing situation.

[Mew_FC]

i didn't ask if this was a faq, and your provided faq is useless to me and only serves to try and justify why you're doing this. check your holier-than-thou condescension at the door, please.

You didn't ask, you brought it up

an ongoing crisis involving tainted water that affects the health and well-being of an entire city (thus causing the houses to drop in value and making them illegal to even sell) =/= artificial scarcity being taken over by singular groups. it's literally not even close to the same thing and the fact that you keep using that as reasoning is absolutely tasteless and offensive on your part, regardless of my emotions..

I see you didn't even read as you clearly do not understand the context in which the prices changes were brought up. Not surprising.

unused houses are an issue, but that's a 'whataboutism' because guess what, those are still singular houses owned by an fc/a solo player and not a concentrated takeover of multiple plots, as you (and several others) engage in. some are buying plots and not using them because they intend to relocate. it's a waste to decorate if they're planning that. and if you're complaining about unused plots, please feel free to share all the evidence you have for using all the ones you're holding, because you claim to be utilizing them but i see zero evidence outside of your statements..

It doesn't matter if those unused houses are owned by individual players or not. Ever heard of strength in numbers? You are absolving players who do nothing with their house until they relocate. Congratulation, you sunk your own ship. You want me to share evidence, come check out the houses for yourself. They're open for a reason.

if they leave the game, so what? the auto demolition will take care of that issue and those plots will reopen to people who will claim them. if they're camping the plot despite inactivity? well, better than one person doing the same with multiple plots. heck, the great thing about fcs: the other members, so if the owner/lead doesn't log in, someone else can take over the fc and plot! but hey, kudos to you for spending an inordinate amount of time and money holding onto that many plots i guess..

Ah yes, great logic again. 24 people using a house once every 45 days vs a handful every other day.

you can try and claim you're logical about this by spending time making charts and graphs (which only serve to add filler and faux logic to distract from your greed but go off) but there is no logic justifying one group or person taking over entire wards. i honestly hope the people you're trying to buy out in your ward never sell purely to spite you, because (and here's my emotions!) i sure as heck would..

There is logical reasoning behind acquiring these houses, you just can't even understand them. Regarding the neighbors, I honestly couldn't care less and have already talked about it.

anyway, thanks for providing an example of the tragedy of the commons for the playerbase i guess.

Thanks for attempting to write something coherent I guess.

Illustrate it with what? I looked over the charts and graphs and they are nothing but filler built to seem logical and to make the OP seem like they know what they talk about. When in reality they are holding on to a large chunk of housing they don't use and probably never will just because they can. It is nothing more than a form of puffery and a flagrant show of wealth that deprives other players of potential housing in an already cutthroat market.

To top it off they have the audacity to blame SE and other players for this farce they are putting on.

And as for the OP. As a citizen of the West Michigan area I would appreciate it if you not compare an actual disaster borne of personal greed and terrible management to your own petty brand of greed. Not that I would expect any decorum from some one who wastes so much money on making other peoples housing excursions just a little bit harder.

Filler? I dare you to come up with something comparable. Judging by the lack of facts in your post, I might have to wait for the next umbral calamity. I mean come on, you claim I do nothing with the houses. You could have at least shared one activity log from one of these FCs. But you can't.

I don't get it... Why the burj khalifa of text only to say: "we need more houses, stop grilling me for having what i have"?

Why the use of inflation when gil doesn't have a set value nor is there any other data to give it value outside of "buys certain things that other currencies don't buy"?

I never said we needed more houses, read again.

[Mahrze]

I never said we needed more houses, read again.

lol ok hun


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[Illy_Peridot]

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except in the real world, price changes in the flint housing crisis were caused by the undesirability to live there because, you know, the water was basically poisoned. keep digging your heels in on using a real world tragedy to further your game goals though? they cut the prices on the houses overall because at the time it was too expensive for a lot of people - and i do agree that upping the price on houses would do a lot to make it a harder to obtain goal, thus making them less easy to get.

you're failing to point out how you owning 20+ plots is doing anything to help alleviate the issue with housing in this game - you and all the other small sets trying to take over wards, honestly. and how does checking the houses you own do anything to prove you're utilizing the facilities like the workshop? gardening is easy to check, decorating is also easy to check - and from what i hear, your houses tend to be empty or filled with mannequins named 'go away' or something like that, so way to be welcoming to the people.

do you even know what the tragedy of the commons is? my post was coherent, and you're just blowing smoke in the air because you seem to dig the drama you're creating with this problem.

While you're at it, let's give everyone access to all the special raid armor and weapons and all the relic weapons and other weapons from eureka or the long zodiac weapon quests etc purchasable from the calamity salvager NPC. You know because everyone deserves it right from the start right? We paid for the game so we're entitled to have all those things aren't we?

except in those cases people have earned them and can obtain them immediately. with housing it ends up being... "ah, i have the money and resources to buy the house, i did the quests to unlock them and reached the gc rank. now i can't get them immediately." so, you're kinda making a bad point there.

[GU099]

except in the real world, price changes in the flint housing crisis were caused by the undesirability to live there because, you know, the water was basically poisoned. keep digging your heels in on using a real world tragedy to further your game goals though? they cut the prices on the houses overall because at the time it was too expensive for a lot of people - and i do agree that upping the price on houses would do a lot to make it a harder to obtain goal, thus making them less easy to get.

you're failing to point out how you owning 20+ plots is doing anything to help alleviate the issue with housing in this game - you and all the other small sets trying to take over wards, honestly. and how does checking the houses you own do anything to prove you're utilizing the facilities like the workshop? gardening is easy to check, decorating is also easy to check - and from what i hear, your houses tend to be empty or filled with mannequins named 'go away' or something like that, so way to be welcoming to the people.

do you even know what the tragedy of the commons is? my post was coherent, and you're just blowing smoke in the air because you seem to dig the drama you're creating with this problem.


except in those cases people have earned them and can obtain them immediately. with housing it ends up being... "ah, i have the money and resources to buy the house, i did the quests to unlock them and reached the gc rank. now i can't get them immediately." so, you're kinda making a bad point there.

You have to earn that money just as you have to earn your shiny weapons. The length I go for earning money and buying houses is the way you view clearing every single raid on the hardest difficulty and acquiring every last glowing goodness there is to show off. We just care about different things. But players can choose to challenge themselves in the way they want, and I choose to do so by having a neighborhood of houses. The only problem is the achievement I'm after is a limited resource while the other stuff is unlimited. Nothing I can do about that, I get what I want and I go whatever length necessary. Wouldn't you say the same about the things you pursue?

[Toxin_Polaris]

You have to earn that money just as you have to earn your shiny weapons. The length I go for earning money and buying houses is the way you view clearing every single raid on the hardest difficulty and acquiring every last glowing goodness there is to show off. We just care about different things. But players can choose to challenge themselves in the way they want, and I choose to do so by having a neighborhood of houses. The only problem is the achievement I'm after is a limited resource while the other stuff is unlimited. Nothing I can do about that, I get what I want and I go whatever length necessary. Wouldn't you say the same about the things you pursue?

yeah that´s a load of bull...
Going with the house system its more like you clear your raids do your quests and then have to wait that someone throws away their gear so another one gets freed for you

[ForteNightshade]

You have to earn that money just as you have to earn your shiny weapons. The length I go for earning money and buying houses is the way you view clearing every single raid on the hardest difficulty and acquiring every last glowing goodness there is to show off. We just care about different things. But players can choose to challenge themselves in the way they want, and I choose to do so by having a neighborhood of houses. The only problem is the achievement I'm after is a limited resource while the other stuff is unlimited. Nothing I can do about that, I get what I want and I go whatever length necessary. Wouldn't you say the same about the things you pursue?

Earning money in this game is laughably easy. Lets not go pretending otherwise. Hell, I made my first 10M selling baby gear when I was on Balmung. It took almost no effort whatsoever to craft. It's become even easier now with two or even one button macros. Comparing gil making to raiding is just silly.