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  1. #11
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    BigTough's Avatar
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    Paris Alexus
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    I just want the old roulette with the old rewards.
    Agreed. That's what I'm suggesting for a secondary option. You could do both. It won't offset any rewards balance either, I mean, if people want poetics, they'll get them, roulette rewards won't stop them.
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  2. #12
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    There are only three mutually exclusive changes I would like to MSQ roulette:

    1. Make it a solo instance and remove it from the roulette. This actually matches how it’s presented lore wise...

    2. Remove Praetorian unless there is a new person. I wanted to say have it pop only if there are new people but then you’d have long stretches with no popping and people would abandon it. I worry this number 2 idea could itself lead to anti new player bias... So I strongly prefer my first solution.

    3. Double the reward if Praetorian... leave everything else as is. I don’t like this solution, but it’s better than my second idea.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    There are only three mutually exclusive changes I would like to MSQ roulette:

    1. Make it a solo instance and remove it from the roulette. This actually matches how it’s presented lore wise...

    2. Remove Praetorian unless there is a new person. I wanted to say have it pop only if there are new people but then you’d have long stretches with no popping and people would abandon it. I worry this number 2 idea could itself lead to anti new player bias... So I strongly prefer my first solution.

    3. Double the reward if Praetorian... leave everything else as is. I don’t like this solution, but it’s better than my second idea.
    I REALLY like the solo option for a suggestion! Even if they removed the roulette and rewards, I would be behind that.
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  4. #14
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    Sathona Jun
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I used to dread MSQ Roulette but its relaxing specially with praetorium just a few sections you run/kill then u can afk w/e since the cutscenes are eternal
    but i appreciate the EXP i get out of it on lvl 60+ specially~ ive got the mood to actually start lvling other classes~ so i dont mind it,sometimes i get ppl who are chatty and i get to talk about different stuff.
    I dont even do it for the tomestones xD
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sathona View Post
    I used to dread MSQ Roulette but its relaxing specially with praetorium just a few sections you run/kill then u can afk w/e since the cutscenes are eternal
    but i appreciate the EXP i get out of it on lvl 60+ specially~ ive got the mood to actually start lvling other classes~ so i dont mind it,sometimes i get ppl who are chatty and i get to talk about different stuff.
    I dont even do it for the tomestones xD
    Yeah, I don't mind it sometimes. I'm usually chatting with someone or watching a show or taking a short Instagram break etc. How's the exp gain in comparison to levelling roulette? I always wondered but never wanted to run it for xp because of the reduced rewards, that and I figured the xp would be similar to 50/60/70 dungeons, which is okay but not great(especially with 50 mins of scenes).
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  6. #16
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    Lunara Haruka
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    Phoenix
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardox View Post
    Another one of these?

    Reasons
    1. No cutscence = No inflated Rewards
    2. Cutscenes are unskippable for new player to enjoy the dungeon
    3. Making cutscenes skippable in certain situations would lead to players to force that situation to happen (e.g. Skippable if all veterans)
    4. Roulette exist with inflated reward so veteran would deign to the content for new players
    5. You don't have to do content you don't like
    At this point this should be pinned.

    There is absolutely 0 reason they need to add a "skippable cutscence roulette". You and all the others will run it once and never again once you realize you don't get the juicy XP without the cutscenes. I don't even know why this is an issue at all. You don't like it? Don't run it. It's really that simple. Nobody is forcing you to do it.
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  7. #17
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    Sathona Jun
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    With 100% Armony Bonus for 60-69 its quite decent,for lvl 70-79[50% armory bonus] i adoooore it! seeing 10+ million exp in ShB lvls is good!
    If im burnt out from farming dungeons an MSQ Roulette will get me relaxed cause its a different pace/difficulty and i still get a big chunk of exp!
    Im staying away from Lvl 50-70 Roulette as its only value to me atleast is if missing tomestones,since thats its only purpose to run it imo[low exp,higher amount of tomestones as rewards]
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    Last edited by Sathona; 08-08-2019 at 05:20 AM.

  8. #18
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    JohnSpawnVFX's Avatar
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Zodiark
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MajinSoul View Post
    At this point this should be pinned.

    There is absolutely 0 reason they need to add a "skippable cutscence roulette". You and all the others will run it once and never again once you realize you don't get the juicy XP without the cutscenes. I don't even know why this is an issue at all. You don't like it? Don't run it. It's really that simple. Nobody is forcing you to do it.
    There were no shortage of veterans running the old roulette.
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  9. #19
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    Karma Dunkelsonn
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    Shiva
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    Warrior Lv 91
    If you created a second MSQ roulette only accessible to people who have previously cleared it and with skippable cutscenes it would give no rewards.
    You have now created a thing nobody ever queues for.
    Because apparently we need more experiences like Ex Trial/BCoB DF queues.

    What they should do is make the cutscenes skippable if you queue for the dungeons directly in a full/undersized party.
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  10. #20
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    Xatsh Vei
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    What would be funny though is if they removed the cutscenes again then reduced the xp from 16million => 5 million. People would be screaming just as much now that it is not worth it to do. Then less people will do it and ques will get stupid long and hurt newer people playing through the game.

    Pretorium is long as crap... but you are rewarded a metric ton of XP. More so then anything else in the whole game.
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