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    What do you people not get on the fact that TBN is a "High risk, no reward" move. That is not okay. You can make it to cost MP, sure; but tell me this: why would you use the shield in the first place when you can use EoS upfront and mitigate a tank buster with Heart of Stone, Intervention, Nascent Flash from your co tank. Your job as a tank is to survive a tank buster with decent HP in case you take another auto attack to your face afterwards, not mitigate it to zero. All of this "but you safe your healer a GCD!" is straight up BS too when most of the healing is done via oGCDs.

    So why is it okay for TBN to cost MP, being either a DPS loss or a DPS neutral move depending on when you do, when you can just go with EoS instead? In any case, a shield is not a freaking reward, that might be the case if you were a healer/DPS, but we're talking about a tank. Why should be defense tied to DPS when there's literally no pay off? Either make it cost no MP or make it a DPS gain, one of the other. No, it's not okay to be DPS neutral if you risk using when you never really have to with now all tanks having off tank skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsthan View Post
    What do you people not get on the fact that TBN is a "High risk, no reward" move. That is not okay. You can make it to cost MP, sure; but tell me this: why would you use the shield in the first place when you can use EoS upfront and mitigate a tank buster with Heart of Stone, Intervention, Nascent Flash from your co tank. Your job as a tank is to survive a tank buster with decent HP in case you take another auto attack to your face afterwards, not mitigate it to zero. All of this "but you safe your healer a GCD!" is straight up BS too when most of the healing is done via oGCDs.

    So why is it okay for TBN to cost MP, being either a DPS loss or a DPS neutral move depending on when you do, when you can just go with EoS instead? In any case, a shield is not a freaking reward, that might be the case if you were a healer/DPS, but we're talking about a tank. Why should be defense tied to DPS when there's literally no pay off? Either make it cost no MP or make it a DPS gain, one of the other. No, it's not okay to be DPS neutral if you risk using when you never really have to with now all tanks having off tank skill.
    But its still a reward.
    You mitigate damage, your healer doesnt have to heal you and could do some dps. A single ability contributed to the party dps indirectly through the healer, if it breaks then its even more efficient than using that MP on Edge of shadow.
    Healer does not have unlimited amout of oGCD to heal everyone and a tank.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 08-06-2019 at 02:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsthan View Post
    What do you people not get on the fact that TBN is a "High risk, no reward" move. That is not okay. You can make it to cost MP, sure; but tell me this: why would you use the shield in the first place when you can use EoS upfront and mitigate a tank buster with Heart of Stone, Intervention, Nascent Flash from your co tank. Your job as a tank is to survive a tank buster with decent HP in case you take another auto attack to your face afterwards, not mitigate it to zero. All of this "but you safe your healer a GCD!" is straight up BS too when most of the healing is done via oGCDs.

    So why is it okay for TBN to cost MP, being either a DPS loss or a DPS neutral move depending on when you do, when you can just go with EoS instead? In any case, a shield is not a freaking reward, that might be the case if you were a healer/DPS, but we're talking about a tank. Why should be defense tied to DPS when there's literally no pay off? Either make it cost no MP or make it a DPS gain, one of the other. No, it's not okay to be DPS neutral if you risk using when you never really have to with now all tanks having off tank skill.
    The reward is mitigating way better than the other tank instant mitigations, and stacking better with buffs from your co-tank because of the damage formula.
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