Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Theodric]

I support this.

So do I. I'd also point out that people have been waiting a long time for the original playable races to receive some much needed updates too - so I wouldn't be opposed to the development team making that a priority as well.

I do hope to see the missing genders added at some point, though I'd prefer the development team to be free to make their own judgement as to when and if they should do it. They already have a lot on their plate, after all.

[zeylos]

So do I. I'd also point out that people have been waiting a long time for the original playable races to receive some much needed updates too - so I wouldn't be opposed to the development team making that a priority as well.

I do hope to see the missing genders added at some point, though I'd prefer the development team to be free to make their own judgement as to when and if they should do it. They already have a lot on their plate, after all.

Indeed, the develpoment team must be the ones to judge when how why and if they do so, same for pretty much anything on the game. That dosent mean that we shouldnt push for what we want in the game to be added, but it also means that, you should be free to do whatever you want with your money, for instance, I, personally, will drop most of my support (will simply only go for a basic subscription, nothing else) if on 6.0 launch the missing genders (both of them) arent here, while I saw someone say otherwise, that they will drop their support if the missing genders do come. SE is and should 100% be the one making decision, just as the playerbase is and should 100% be the one choosing if they like them, and act accordingly, so I encourage everyone to push for missingg enders (or anything you want, even if its to not have them added) through forums threads, while being respectful, and to drop their subs if they arent satisfied with the content and viceversa

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

its selfish to wanna have the option to play the race I want, even if ppl that are playing they want cant have their shiny hairstyles and hats? Interesting line of thought

Yes. That's quite literally being selfish. If you can't understand that then I suppose ignorance is bliss.

[zeylos]

That's rather selfish of you, considering there are still many things that need polishing on the new races.

Actually I've found a very clear way of putting my though on this.

You and me are both children on an oprhanate on christmas (I know it sounds weird, its just an example). When the time of opening the presents come, I see how someone got the toy I wanted, but in a completely different shape, color, and its just not even close to the one I asked for. I am telled to just wait until I see what Im gifted. I open the gift, and its a shiny red car that I couldnt care less about, yet you love it, so you just take it and have lots of fun with it. Then, they tell us that they dont know if they have enough money to buy me and other kids the toys we wanted, and that the toys you got are missing the shiny purple glitter they were announced with. I decide, with other kids, to go and ask to get my toys, and then you come and tell me Im selfish because your shiny car dosent have the purple glitter and I should not get anything until you get your glitter.

Thats my line of though on this

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Actually I've found a very clear way of putting my though on this.

You and me are both children on an oprhanate on christmas (I know it sounds weird, its just an example). When the time of opening the presents come, I see how someone got the toy I wanted, but in a completely different shape, color, and its just not even close to the one I asked for. I am telled to just wait until I see what Im gifted. I open the gift, and its a shiny red car that I couldnt care less about, yet you love it, so you just take it and have lots of fun with it. Then, they tell us that they dont know if they have enough money to buy me and other kids the toys we wanted, and that the toys you got are missing the shiny purple glitter they were announced with. I decide, with other kids, to go and ask to get my toys, and then you come and tell me Im selfish because your shiny car dosent have the purple glitter and I should not get anything until you get your glitter.

Thats my line of though on this

Except you neglect the fact that you've enjoyed the toys you had over the past several years without a second thought. This toy that you wanted was also never promised to you. So your example falls to pieces at the base level. Meanwhile, the toys others got were expected because one of the other children went into the closet and peeked, then telling all the others. Yet you, and many others, chose not to believe the one that peeked and leaked this information. Also, let us not forget that the ones purchasing the toys specifically told you that "Hey, they're gonna get the stuffed bunny rabbit, but it's going to have a bow in its hair. The toy you wanted will have to be something different, like a hot wheels car or something." So if you ignored all of this and feel cheated, it's on you. We have what we have, and the hot wheels car and the bunny are missing things. Things like fur, and paint/decals. Need I carry on further?

[zeylos]

Except you neglect the fact that you've enjoyed the toys you had over the past several years without a second thought. This toy that you wanted was also never promised to you. So your example falls to pieces at the base level. Meanwhile, the toys others got were expected because one of the other children went into the closet and peeked, then telling all the others. Yet you, and many others, chose not to believe the one that peeked and leaked this information. Also, let us not forget that the ones purchasing the toys specifically told you that "Hey, they're gonna get the stuffed bunny rabbit, but it's going to have a bow in its hair. The toy you wanted will have to be something different, like a hot wheels car or something." So if you ignored all of this and feel cheated, it's on you. We have what we have, and the hot wheels car and the bunny are missing things. Things like fur, and paint/decals. Need I carry on further?

You are literally contradictying all of your pouints right now. Everything you said literally applies to you, yet after you got your car you still complain because it dosent have a bow tie and u are literally asking for everyone to not get what they want until you egt your shiny bowtie. Then you call others selfish huh. Also, you were never promised your bow tie, you were, fromthe beggining, told it would not have it, yet even after you got what you want, since it isnt exactly how you want, you really still complain. Honestly, Im both confused and amused by the fact that female vieras and male hrtogars are literally complainign when theres so many ppl that cant even play the race that they want. Also, you are literally saying that since you got whatever u want others cant and should not get what they want. Ok, I honestly dotn see a point to continuing this

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

You are literally contradictying all of your pouints right now. Everything you said literally applies to you, yet after you got your car you still complain because it dosent have a bow tie and u are literally asking for everyone to not get what they want until you egt your shiny bowtie. Then you call others selfish huh. Also, you were never promised your bow tie, you were, fromthe beggining, told it would not have it, yet even after you got what you want, since it isnt exactly how you want, you really still complain. Honestly, Im both confused and amused by the fact that female vieras and male hrtogars are literally complainign when theres so many ppl that cant even play the race that they want. Also, you are literally saying that since you got whatever u want others cant and should not get what they want. Ok, I honestly dotn see a point to continuing this

/facepalm

I can't with you. I just can't. Your willful ignorance is staggering.

Also, I have never said that others should not get what they want. Never have I said such. I have said that the current new races should get more polish before they move on to the next. Your selfish attitude knows no bounds. You would rather the unfinished product be abandoned in favor of what you want so that you can just have what that toy you're striving for rather than all the children end up with full, finished, and polished toys.

[SturmChurro]

Actually I've found a very clear way of putting my though on this.

You and me are both children on an oprhanate on christmas (I know it sounds weird, its just an example). When the time of opening the presents come, I see how someone got the toy I wanted, but in a completely different shape, color, and its just not even close to the one I asked for. I am telled to just wait until I see what Im gifted. I open the gift, and its a shiny red car that I couldnt care less about, yet you love it, so you just take it and have lots of fun with it. Then, they tell us that they dont know if they have enough money to buy me and other kids the toys we wanted, and that the toys you got are missing the shiny purple glitter they were announced with. I decide, with other kids, to go and ask to get my toys, and then you come and tell me Im selfish because your shiny car dosent have the purple glitter and I should not get anything until you get your glitter.

Thats my line of though on this

Female viera, and male hrothgar were added into the game. These are the two most limited races in the game yet. We are missing content we have literally paid money for, or spent time in-game earning. Hrothgar will probably never see the hairstyles, and have a very limited selection as is. Viera are in the same boat, but should plausibly see missing hairstyles, probably will never see helmets - maybe some hats. Male viera was never promised to you, you might want it, but it wasn't promised.

They should focus on finishing each half of the races that were added into the game, before even thinking about spreading their workload and effectively doubling it, in my opinion. The fact that the opposite genders are even missing should give you a hint on why they didn't do them in the first place.

My selfishness is so great that I've also stated millions of times that even if I dont have intentions to main a female hrtogar I hope theyll get more resources because theyre harder to do than male viera, and that id love for the current genders to get updates, just after male viera and female hrotgar. Your toy is perfectly polished and shiny. It literally lacks a bowtie. I dont even have a toy yet you still complain

To use the analogy, you have the same toy everyone else has, you just want a different one.

[Theodric]

So, I'll be the bigger person here.

You have an advantage there as a Hrothgar!

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

You have an advantage there as a Hrothgar!

HA HA! I see we are as clever as always, Theo! Good to see you!