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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    All I'm getting in opposition to this is a lot of non-specific banter about "participation trophies," and how bad that is. What specifically is being lost if this hypothetical, where casuals could clear Savage content for lesser rewards, were to happen?
    you're losing any sense of pride and accomplishment.

    while that line is a meme, it is partially true. You don't see any World First clears on dungeons or MSQ trials. You only see them when the content is deserving of the effort with high difficulty and high bar for clearing. you have to be decent at this game to clear these fights while they're current. "clearing" the fight under some "casual" setting will never be seen as a real clear in current content.

    the "easy mode" you speak of already exists, its the option to unsync these fights way in the future when you're 100 iLvls higher than the fight.
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    Laernu Tairos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    you're losing any sense of pride and accomplishment.

    while that line is a meme, it is partially true. You don't see any World First clears on dungeons or MSQ trials. You only see them when the content is deserving of the effort with high difficulty and high bar for clearing. you have to be decent at this game to clear these fights while they're current. "clearing" the fight under some "casual" setting will never be seen as a real clear in current content.

    the "easy mode" you speak of already exists, its the option to unsync these fights way in the future when you're 100 iLvls higher than the fight.

    This ^

    SE already destroyed the sense of kill accomplishment in PVP for 5.0, because a minor amount of pvpers cried they were too stupid to figure out how to kill a healer.

    We dont need that boring garbage brought to PVE as well

    I mean 14 is already crazy easy compared to MMOs a decade ago, I cant fathom it going any easier.
    IMO it could make do by making it harder, and old content at least require minimum ilvl settings. Really prefer to not fall asleep mid play from content being nerfed and boring.
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    Last edited by UnrealTai; 08-02-2019 at 04:06 AM.