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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    1. The lore is not a problem : airship and floating islands already provide solutions.
    I don't want to spoil anything but for the lore I think we are blazing green light- we are ready for take off, lets do this boisssss lol.

    I tried to allude to it without spelling things out in my first post but given our airships and floating islands as you said, given just saying "mother crystal gave us a space", and given something else that I'm dancing on top of but not out right saying because spoils... There isn't a lore wall in any way to instanced housing (our game isn't that "physical" and grounded like that anyways, so even if we didn't have some of the above I'm sure we could find a reason lol.. but we do have the above so.. yeah ).

    The real wall is just money and time . The money and time required to develop systems and adjust current systems to make it so "it just works". Which could be substantial in both departments, unfortunately.

    I'd hope SE could find some ways to offset the cost by the fact that if EVERYONE has a house then there would be a lot more purchases from their shop for missed out seasonal(s), and they might be able to sell extra space for those who wanted it. Like I imagine the RP community might want to create a network of instances, if the system is creative enough especially- like if someone wanted to extend Ala Mhigo, attempt to make a Castrum (Garlean base), or even a Garlean Warship (though unless SE provides enough creative objects that sounds rather daunting).

    Of course if you let people buy more space then it would loop right back into buying more items from the shop, so that'd be a nice loop. Obviously it's not a money guarantee but just trying to offer the idea that it might be able to pay itself off literally given time but also figuratively in that good will of going from a limited system to one that can handle it all (location, size, quantity, creativity, and for those who just can't live without a neighorhood there would probably be a lot more open slots since I strongly imagine most would switch to the more powerful system).

    A bit of a tangent but on the topic of airships I actually had thought of it being a sort of less memory intensive "solution" for housing for players who didn't have one, and also for players who didn't want to decorate in such high detail but wanted some control still. Like if you imagine in Skyrim and some other games you buy upgrades to your house that change it's theme and tier but the designers of the game basically decorated it for you (like planning your wedding with a good wedding planner or something). Of course I'd love full control airships too, just thought if SE is absolutely adamant on "can't be done, we can't get everyone their own house, our architecture just can't do it" then maybe a sort of WoW Garrison Airship kind of deal would work out well enough (WoW's Garrison is lower memory and customization to our houses too, though definitely bigger in area since it's a sort of zone space). Made a fairly big "if memory is an issue MAYBE we can have airships for FC and players, for the awesome nostalgia, new unique features, and to act as a home for those without homes": here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Rather than changing the housing system, I'd rather they expanded Apartments.

    Give the option for a Duplex Apartment (size of a small house) and a Penthouse Apartment (size of a medium house).
    They'd be instanced, alternatives to owning a full house.

    Then, add in Allotments for those who want a garden. (this may be something we're getting in the future?)
    Separate, instanced gardens.

    Housing can still exist as it is, tailored more for FC's than individuals, but for those who just want their space and functionality, there's cheaper, hassle-free, instanced alternatives.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hazmick View Post
    The best solutions would be to expand inn rooms, add a little garden terrace to them, or expand apartments to allow more furniture to be placed there. Houses would still be desirable, but it would give people more options and opportunities.

    I really like housing wards as they are, but can understand the frustration for people on super busy servers with 0 housing available.

    I think these are more reasonable solutions, since it'd take less effort (still effort of course, it's not free lol). But at the point of expanding and adding to an instanced system, like apartments, then I'd hope they go wild and not even attempt to keep the heavily limited neighborhood system as the pinnacle of the housing systems.

    So I think this is more realistic but I also hope they go far beyond this lol. The limitations in locations and strict controls required are unwanted (imo), and if you want to be limited but near other people then be my guest (starts singing Disney song. . . .), but I also hope another system comes by and makes it pale in comparison.

    SE has so many awesome locations and the rate and restrictions that the ward system requires just makes me a bit sad (probably the only remaining thing in FFXIV that just as me go "but y tho /queue frowny face"). I mean in terms of areas you could be in with your housing.. you could almost literally take the Azim Steppe floating platform remove all buildings and then make the area on the platform an area players can put objects on. That castle keep being an optional building players could buy or something. The rest of the "zone" being a backdrop for your living space. That'd be amazing! The near limitless possibilities, handcuffed by our current system.

    I'd take an apartment upgrade because I think it could help a lot with the quantity issues people are having (and is more likely lol), but I believe it misses a huge potential upgrade to the housing system- so I personally don't think it's best or most desirable (at least if that was the end point goal, it could act as a stepping stone certainly).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 08-01-2019 at 02:30 AM.