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    Evogolist's Avatar
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    Instanced Housing?

    One of the things I never understood after the issues we had with housing is why the devs didn't choose to go with Instance housing for any and all future housing areas. While yes, there are a lot of small houses available, there are players who after a while, would like to upgrade to a bigger house. This being impossible due to the small amount of medium and large plots available.

    Now sure, over the span of time, the devs have added more wards to the existing housing areas, but that only seems to be a band-aid to an ongoing problem. Something that I feel could possibly be solved by making any future areas of housing instanced. So my question to the community is, with the possibility of Ishgard housing may be finally happening in the 5.xx series, would you all prefer for it to be like what we have now with separate wards, or would you prefer for it to be instanced with the choice of upgrading to a bigger plot over time?
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    Last edited by Evogolist; 07-31-2019 at 02:22 PM.

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    They should have both. I don't really care about "showing off" my house (every ward is empty so LOL???). I'd give someone my plot if instanced housing were implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuna View Post
    They should have both. I don't really care about "showing off" my house (every ward is empty so LOL???). I'd give someone my plot if instanced housing were implemented.
    Both ya, We have a fun time with our neighbors, but for those with empty wards whynot have that option.
    Makes sense tbh
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    The way EQ2 did housing is one of the better ways to do it. Houses are spread throughout the main cities and they're accessed via the door on the building. They're instanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    The way EQ2 did housing is one of the better ways to do it. Houses are spread throughout the main cities and they're accessed via the door on the building. They're instanced.
    EQ2 did decorating better, I'll agree to that - but that is the only thing I'd take from it.

    I'm not a fan of one door leading to 100 instances.

    If people want instanced housing, you have two options in apartments and fc rooms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon View Post
    If people want instanced housing, you have two options in apartments and fc rooms.
    People need to stop saying this, its stupid. You cannot crossbreed in an apartment or fc room. You do not have much space in an apartment or fc room either. They're lame and not a housing replacement. If se made them better then that argument would have weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon View Post
    EQ2 did decorating better, I'll agree to that - but that is the only thing I'd take from it.

    I'm not a fan of one door leading to 100 instances.

    If people want instanced housing, you have two options in apartments and fc rooms.
    Only that apartments and FC rooms are only instanced in a sense, but still contain the same limitations and problems that the current housing situation presents. Also like the current housing situation, apartments and FC rooms suffer from the issue of availability. While a FC House may never run out of rooms since I doubt there's a FC out there with over 200 members, but for the sake of argument, let's say there is a FC with over 200 members. What happens when there's no more space available for any member 201 and up? Same thing with apartments. I don't think any ward has had a situation with apartments filling up yet, but each ward has a set amount of apartment rooms available.

    Saying that if a person wants instanced housing they should just stick with FC Rooms and/or apartments is a slap in the face to many, especially when some of the housing features and furnishings are only available to those who own actual plots. Imagine wanting to decorate the house and you can't because you don't have permission from the FC leader? You can't change any furnishings around nor can you access gardening. You're basically stuck shuffling stuff around in your little box.

    When implemented, FC rooms were a band-aid/temporary measure until personal housing was made available. Again, same with apartments. They're a band-aid/temporary measure until they can figure out what to do with housing. Which is sad since the player base has long since figured out how to fix it and yet the devs choose to keep going with the neighborhood design instead.
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    Last edited by Evogolist; 07-31-2019 at 08:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon View Post
    EQ2 did decorating better, I'll agree to that - but that is the only thing I'd take from it.

    I'm not a fan of one door leading to 100 instances.

    If people want instanced housing, you have two options in apartments and fc rooms.
    I would rather have random buildings with doors throughout the city than two in an instanced housing neighborhood which can only be accessed via an instanced building.

    If I could have my druthers, I would want a few very large (think Ruby Sea zone size or bigger) neighborhoods scattered around the gaming world that you could have open houses (don't have to zone into them). Then again, I'd prefer to have no load screens at all beyond logging in. But until computers and servers can handle such insane amounts of data, we're stuck with instanced housing.
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    they need to make apartments expandable. kind of like swtor. Pay an extra amount for a greenhouse or balcony where you can garden....if they are not going to add pots that can crossbreed.
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    All and each ward could be instanced. 3 instances each. Tripling the number of plots and people with houses.

    I can't see any other solution in the long term for the housing big issue.

    In this, every time you teleport to your house you will go to the instance that it is. And when you need to decide to which ward you want to go, you then choose in each instance of that especific ward you wanna go.

    After some time, let's say 2 to 3 years, they could implement more 2 or 3 instances for each ward again.

    I guess when they created the ward system they didn't thought that this game would get so many players. When 2.0 launched they had a big issue of congestion on the servers 'cause there are spaces for only 5000 characters per server (hahaha). They had to attend to the issue by creating more space in each server in the first week.

    i think they never thought that this game would be such a success as it is nowadays and the housing system went to a big wrong because of the same population problem and lack of future vision...
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    Last edited by Wanzzo; 08-01-2019 at 02:12 AM.

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