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  1. #81
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post

    Anger leads to hate…hate leads to suffering.

    Not you look at your bowl and see full it is. Worry you should that others enough they have.
    But
    Peace is a lie. There is only Card.
    Through Card I gain Seal.
    Through Seal I gain Divination.
    Through Divination I gain Victory.
    Through Victory my chains are Broken.
    The Balance shall free me.

    Okay, on a serious note, what OP written and all other emotional angry reply other players made in this thread is only going to add fuel into the conflict between healer, it won’t bring back balance but only destroy it
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  2. #82
    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    But
    Peace is a lie. There is only Card.
    Through Card I gain Seal.
    Through Seal I gain Divination.
    Through Divination I gain Victory.
    Through Victory my chains are Broken.
    The Balance shall free me.

    Okay, on a serious note, what OP written and all other emotional angry reply other players made in this thread is only going to add fuel into the conflict between healer, it won’t bring back balance but only destroy it
    Are we not allowed to express our discontentment anymore? Because, you know. Ever since yesterday, the hypocrisy of certain people just got very evident whenever they claim WHM has no issues whatsoever. That's either blindness, or all the talk about wanting for all healers to be on par as well as fun and engaging some of the people claiming that was blattant lies...

    And before anyone says anything, YES, I know it's not everyone. But stop acting as if it doesn't happen, either.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    Dude, or you are trolling or you dont have any idea of how potencies/healing/sch/ast works
    you didn't get my point, im angry cause WHM got nothing again, im angry cause ppls bitching that WHM is OP when he is not (this will lead to nerf soon), im angry cause if SE keep buffing other 2 healers than whm that WHM will be forgetten unwanted healer again

    I don't want to play scholar again like I do in SB cause whm was crap in there days ... and I hate to play astro, also im angry cause we didn't get 4th healer class (didn't post it here)

    that all anger exploded in me and made this thread ...
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    you didn't get my point, im angry cause WHM got nothing again, im angry cause ppls bitching that WHM is OP when he is not (this will lead to nerf soon), im angry cause if SE keep buffing other 2 healers than whm that WHM will be forgetten unwanted healer again

    I don't want to play scholar again like I do in SB cause whm was crap in there days ... and I hate to play astro, also im angry cause we didn't get 4th healer class (didn't post it here)

    that all anger exploded in me and made this thread ...
    I wouldn't worry too much just yet. WHM is still looking amazing and you have at least until 5.1 before anything changes with AST. I also somehow expect them to do incremental changes since ShB is going to be all about balancing healers since they want to introduce a new healer next expac.

    I feel sorry for the ASTs that need to wait a bit longer ;(
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  5. #85
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    Impurrrsive's Avatar
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    We smile at others misery, that's what I'm understand from this post... Hmmm...
    Shouldn't we smile at others happiness?
    Not all ppl can achieve as per number we calculate for dps and healing, it depend on individual skills, i just don't understand why ppl alienate certain healer
    A good healer will always be a good healer no matter which job u choose
    But unfortunately i see the truth in AST, they really have shortcomings
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  6. #86
    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    I wouldn't worry too much just yet. WHM is still looking amazing and you have at least until 5.1 before anything changes with AST. I also somehow expect them to do incremental changes since ShB is going to be all about balancing healers since they want to introduce a new healer next expac.

    I feel sorry for the ASTs that need to wait a bit longer ;(
    It's hard not to worry if you watch history repeat itself over and over again, sadly. I worry, too, since it's the same shit as the last two times. The longer we stay silent about having issues, the harder it will be to be heard when we really reach the point when WHM starts to be lacking in comparison again. It might feel good now, but I'm afraid if things continue like this and history repeats itself, we are vound to suffer again.
    Denialists blinded to our issues aren't helping at all, either. In contrast, they are a huge hindrance.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    you didn't get my point, im angry cause WHM got nothing again, im angry cause ppls bitching that WHM is OP when he is not (this will lead to nerf soon), im angry cause if SE keep buffing other 2 healers than whm that WHM will be forgetten unwanted healer again

    I don't want to play scholar again like I do in SB cause whm was crap in there days ... and I hate to play astro, also im angry cause we didn't get 4th healer class (didn't post it here)

    that all anger exploded in me and made this thread ...
    Alright, full stop. Let's see what a person whose opinion you value might think on this subject.

    First off, while most people aren't calling for WHM nerfs, perhaps your fear is because you think WHM is OP and needs it? After all, as somebody whose opinion you greatly value once said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    I love when SCH cry about his op class is nerfed
    Now, I understand being upset that you fear a nerf might be incoming, but, to quote somebody you greatly respect on this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    why ? op classes get well deserved nerfs, im happy playing my whm
    I mean, shouldn't you be able to adapt? In the words of someone you might know:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    I don't wanna show how "pro" im, I want show to younger players how harder games was in the past and few nerfs is not end of the world, history know harder nerfs
    Granted, that said, you might not value the opinion of that person whining here, given that they once bragged:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    I don't go to forums like other scholars QQ all day
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    Are we not allowed to express our discontentment anymore? Because, you know. Ever since yesterday, the hypocrisy of certain people just got very evident whenever they claim WHM has no issues whatsoever. That's either blindness, or all the talk about wanting for all healers to be on par as well as fun and engaging some of the people claiming that was blattant lies...

    And before anyone says anything, YES, I know it's not everyone. But stop acting as if it doesn't happen, either.
    It is about how to express the ideas, putting so much emotion especially rage in a discussion will only make other ppl not taking it seriously, and I was mostly talking about OP first pose. I know it could be frustrating when your favourite role not getting the attention it need. However, those claim OP made have no fact to support his claims, if OP make an objective analysis I am sure it would turn out way better and will get more ideas of balance form other fellow healers
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by galbsadi View Post
    Alright, full stop. Let's see what a person whose opinion you value might think on this subject.

    First off, while most people aren't calling for WHM nerfs, perhaps your fear is because you think WHM is OP and needs it? After all, as somebody whose opinion you greatly value once said:



    Now, I understand being upset that you fear a nerf might be incoming, but, to quote somebody you greatly respect on this:



    I mean, shouldn't you be able to adapt? In the words of someone you might know:



    Granted, that said, you might not value the opinion of that person whining here, given that they once bragged:
    do you know I played SB as scholar right ?
    this class was just too much, too good , too op

    you posted my sarcastic posts about class I played and if some1 played class in 3/4 expansion and tell this class is too strong ... well you can tell yourself the rest my english is not good enough to speak about some topics freely
    and you know what ? I had no fking choice, cause whm was crap and I hate astro(old and new), class just not for me, even I know how to use it, so I was forced to play SCH
    also no 4th healer

    and this is my 1st QQ thread


    EDIT: and also you said I should adept, sure I adepted changed WHM to SCH in SB ... that dosen't change WHM is my fav class that why I QQ
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    Last edited by Dynia; 08-01-2019 at 12:47 AM.

  10. #90
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    Don't you DARE try to touch WHM. I'm worried for 5.1 and will enjoy it as is for as long as I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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