Alliance Raid Roulette Needs adjustments

[RMA209]

Ever consider playing for oh, I don't know fun. If fewer people ran it and we had better runs that would be a good thing. We get to many bad that players pull early and shout at new players. Once had a bunch of others in a run say watch a video or don't play. We can see the exp brings in bad players and I have had to report a few. Its just not working out for many people.

[gaymer77]

Ever consider playing for oh, I don't know fun. If fewer people ran it and we had better runs that would be a good thing. We get to many bad that players pull early and shout at new players. Once had a bunch of others in a run say watch a video or don't play. We can see the exp brings in bad players and I have had to report a few. Its just not working out for many people.

Again, if fewer people ran it that would mean longer queues for EVERYONE especially new players who are experiencing the content for the first time. You are talking about OPTIONAL dungeons/raids not MSL ones. I understand you are a healer and a healer queue is quite low (being a WHM I understand this very well too) but for your average DPS the queue time can be very long. Making things harder (and in return it will make the dungeons/raids LONGER too) means fewer players will queue for those. That means that people will be waiting much much longer than they currently are. Again this is OLD content and provides, quite frankly, crappy rewards outside of the exp for completing it even if you are the appropriate level to run it. A friend of mine has been telling me & my boyfriend to farm poetics for gear because they are good pieces and can upgrade to even better. I looked it up and the gear I can get it upgrade to is lower in item level & stats than stuff I can buy on the market for gil. People aren't running this content for items. They are running it because the exp bonus rewards. Making old content more challenging for people in current content in ANY MMORPG has never been a thing. The reason for this is developers push for people to run the new stuff they released. The only game that I've seen update old content has been WoW with revamps or redesigns/re-release of old content. Old content is literally just that....OLD CONTENT. It makes no sense to reward players who are max level for running old outdated content. The exp bonus is just a perk of running old content.

[RMA209]

Why it needs a rework. Make them all the same time and challenge investment of the player that plays it. Crystal Tower,as said, is to ez next to others in the same roulette. If they can rework some old stuff this should also be an option. They brought back the frontlines with its roulette and rules. I never said make it hard. Just add in more of it. The higher item level took away the experience. Why cant they work on this roulette too?

[gaymer77]

Why it needs a rework. Make them all the same time and challenge investment of the player that plays it. Crystal Tower,as said, is to ez next to others in the same roulette. If they can rework some old stuff this should also be an option. They brought back the frontlines with its roulette and rules. I never said make it hard. Just add in more of it. The higher item level took away the experience. Why cant they work on this roulette too?

Again you are failing to understand that old content is simply OLD CONTENT. Why should or would a developer keep pushing, updating, and regulating old dungeons/raids in old content if they aren't worth the time? Why would developers push players to continue to play old content instead of going into and playing NEW CONTENT they just released? Just because YOU want to see old content made more difficult doesn't mean you are the majority. In fact, you are in a very small percentage of the player base (I'd estimate less than 0.5% of the players agree with you).

To make a comparison for those who came from WoW I'll say this. Why would Blizzard push players to run Deadmines, Ragefire Chasm, or Molten Core at max level and continue to make updates to those dungeons & raids 15 years after the game was released just to satisfy a player base of less than 1/2 a percent? Answer is they wouldn't. They would push for players to run max level or current content instead and if they want to run those old things for transmog (aka glamour in FF14) then they can do it quickly because the player over gears the place.

[RMA209]

Again you are failing to understand that old content is simply OLD CONTENT. Why should or would a developer keep pushing, updating, and regulating old dungeons/raids in old content if they aren't worth the time? Why would developers push players to continue to play old content instead of going into and playing NEW CONTENT they just released?

How about when Crystal Tower was played for the Heavensward relic? Plus its still in the lore. The development team said people should do it before playing the shadowbringers msq. Many play these levels every day. I don't want them changed at all. I'm only saying that a lower max item level would help out. They did it on many of the level 50 dungeons. They could do it. I know i'm not alone. They took the time to take out a tank spot and make it a dps. There not a required dungeon but Crystal Tower Story being missed will not make shadowbringers as god for some. Crystal Tower wont be as good if the dungeons and people in them are un-fun. Most of the time I go people don't even stop for the cs in dun Scaith or Syrcus Tower.

[gaymer77]

How about when Crystal Tower was played for the Heavensward relic? Plus its still in the lore. The development team said people should do it before playing the shadowbringers msq. Many play these levels every day. I don't want them changed at all. I'm only saying that a lower max item level would help out. They did it on many of the level 50 dungeons. They could do it. I know i'm not alone. They took the time to take out a tank spot and make it a dps. There not a required dungeon but Crystal Tower Story being missed will not make shadowbringers as god for some. Crystal Tower wont be as good if the dungeons and people in them are un-fun. Most of the time I go people don't even stop for the cs in dun Scaith or Syrcus Tower.

They said you should run it before Shadowbringers because of the lore that comes to Shadowbringers (current content) from Crystal Tower. They didn't say that people should run it because of the CHALLENGE it brings to the table or should bring to the table. It is not uncommon for games to take content/stories/lore from previous expansions (or other games in their franchise) and they have a major impact on CURRENT content. They removed a tank spot and put in a dps spot instead because the need for that extra tank wasn't there. Again you are missing the fact that you're talking about OPTIONAL content. So to sum it up, you want to take OPTIONAL content from a PRIOR EXPANSION and make it MORE DIFFICULT simply because YOU feel it should be harder. Do you not see the absurdity in that statement?

[Ardox]

They removed a tank spot and put in a dps spot instead because the need for that extra tank wasn't there.

Actually, it's not true. They dropped the tank position because they needed exact same party composition as the HW and (the planned) SB raids for the roulette to work properly. So, in order for a min ilvl party to be able to clear the ARR raid, they had to tweak the encounters so the 2nd tank wouldn't be needed.

That said, it ws only tweaks, they didn't dramatically reworked the content

[AnimaAnimus]

Ever consider playing for oh, I don't know fun.

Your fun and my fun may not be the same. Your fun and what SE wants to implement for fun may not be the same.

If you want to make a game that is strictly 100% your idea of fun, might I suggest you enroll at a university that has a great game development program, graduate, then put a plan together along with a proof of concept demo, shop it around to various companies and investors and find the one that will allow you, without any interference from them, to make a game that is exactly what you deem fun, then try to maintain that game's active subscription base for over 10 years while putting in a plethora of new content every 3 months along with upgrading every existing piece of content every 3 months to keep everything aligned.

Then we can chat.