Alliance Raid Roulette Needs adjustments

[RMA209]

To be honest I would really just love the content to be made with a max item level from the start. Why not tale Labyrinth of the Ancients and make it item level 80 or 90? It was out around item level 55 min. It drops item level 80 gear so why are we ilv 130? The Royal City of Rabanastre lost some of its charm too from this. In the first fight Three Azure Guards would spawn. When is the last time you saw them?

[RMA209]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post5108507

I know theres a lot of posts but my question is on this topic. I'm post # 696

[gaymer77]

Old content? The lore is used in Shadowbringers and they suggest you go play it. Also its in a roulette many play daily. With New game plus more people might go check out old content. That feature not even out yet. If they can change the Main Scenario roulette they can change this. I don't think it needs to be the min item level but a lower one would be better then it is now.

To be honest, its part of the daily roulette because if it weren't new players/characters would never see it pop up for them to complete for MSL or blue+ quests. Honestly why aren't you complaining about Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium not being challenging enough? Those are run by even max level characters because the tomes per hour are the highest in the game yet the raids themselves aren't very challenging.

[RMA209]

Honestly why aren't you complaining about Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium not being challenging enough?

I just want to point out the those are 8 man dungeons. There not raids. Also this, Crystal Tower is not msq. Nothing makes you do any 24 man levels.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Nowadays, Alliance & MSQ-Roulette are just easy XP. I just use it for a quick daily xp-boosting while leveling my classes.

[RMA209]

As stated it wont be ez if you pull World of Darkness, the orbonne monastery, or Dun Scaith. Why I don't understand them not putting Labyrinth of the Ancients on a lower item level.

[AnimaAnimus]

um.... What about The Orbonne Monastery? Many people back out the second its there roulette. Last time I was there we all died on every boss. I got it as a roulette a few weeks back and people kept jumping ship all the way through.

As stated it wont be ez if you pull World of Darkness, the orbonne monastery, or Dun Scaith. Why I don't understand them not putting Labyrinth of the Ancients on a lower item level.

These are all easy peasy for anyone who has run them. Last time I was in all of these we burned through it so fast many mechanics were skipped, it all depends on who is in the party, how many new ppl there are, the skill level of them, etc. But anyone who has been doing it since it was fresh can power through it practically with their eyes closed.

But the fact remains, its had its day in the sun and is now outdated by many many physical levels and many many ilvls which in the land of ffxiv is a death sentence. It's in the roulette to help get new people through it while giving the people doing it again an exp bonus. And if you are new it still will be challenging, regardless on whether or not come mechanics are skipped. That's why you saw so many ppl die. But for others who have run it 250 times, we would never step foot in there again without a little bonus incentive, and that's where being able to mostly cheese it comes in.

If it still took as long as it did back at release it wouldn't be worth it since there are faster ways to gain exp which is also why you saw ppl leave, they may not know how easy it is now or they may have had a pt similar to yours and judged it not worth the time. So pick your poison. Have things loose their difficulty or just not be able to complete the content since it would be nearly impossible to find anyone to do it. The only games that can keep old content difficult are games that still put significant rewards behind them. That's why ffxi was able to keep things like dynamis and einherjar challenging for years, people always ran them because the reward was worth the time and the difficulty.

[gaymer77]

I just want to point out the those are 8 man dungeons. There not raids. Also this, Crystal Tower is not msq. Nothing makes you do any 24 man levels.

And just like that, with your reply you completely disregard the point I was making. Crystal Tower isn't MSL questing. It is 100% optional. If they made it more difficult people would not even bother unlocking it on other characters. Its in the daily roulette because people who are on the quests for it would never see the quest completed unless they were to manually find a group for it. Snowcloak is MSL unlocked which is a good reason why you are seeing it in the daily roulette. Both Labyrinth & Syrcus are blue+ quests that are 100% optional. Hell even Orbonne Monastery is optional because its not a MSL unlock. You are focused too much on the ease or difficulty of old expansion content and for whatever reason you feel that old expansion content should be more difficult now than it is. Quite frankly, if old content were more difficult you wouldn't see as many people doing it because the rewards just aren't there. The only reason why people who are in the Shadowbringers expansions or straight up level 80 do old content is for glamour and tomes. Level 80 players don't need exp. The exp gained from old content doesn't give you much for anyone outside the level range that the dungeon/raid is appropriate for other than the BONUS exp given for completing the dungeon.

[RMA209]

Ever consider playing for oh, I don't know fun. If fewer people ran it and we had better runs that would be a good thing. We get to many bad that players pull early and shout at new players. Once had a bunch of others in a run say watch a video or don't play. We can see the exp brings in bad players and I have had to report a few. Its just not working out for many people.

[gaymer77]

Ever consider playing for oh, I don't know fun. If fewer people ran it and we had better runs that would be a good thing. We get to many bad that players pull early and shout at new players. Once had a bunch of others in a run say watch a video or don't play. We can see the exp brings in bad players and I have had to report a few. Its just not working out for many people.

Again, if fewer people ran it that would mean longer queues for EVERYONE especially new players who are experiencing the content for the first time. You are talking about OPTIONAL dungeons/raids not MSL ones. I understand you are a healer and a healer queue is quite low (being a WHM I understand this very well too) but for your average DPS the queue time can be very long. Making things harder (and in return it will make the dungeons/raids LONGER too) means fewer players will queue for those. That means that people will be waiting much much longer than they currently are. Again this is OLD content and provides, quite frankly, crappy rewards outside of the exp for completing it even if you are the appropriate level to run it. A friend of mine has been telling me & my boyfriend to farm poetics for gear because they are good pieces and can upgrade to even better. I looked it up and the gear I can get it upgrade to is lower in item level & stats than stuff I can buy on the market for gil. People aren't running this content for items. They are running it because the exp bonus rewards. Making old content more challenging for people in current content in ANY MMORPG has never been a thing. The reason for this is developers push for people to run the new stuff they released. The only game that I've seen update old content has been WoW with revamps or redesigns/re-release of old content. Old content is literally just that....OLD CONTENT. It makes no sense to reward players who are max level for running old outdated content. The exp bonus is just a perk of running old content.