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    Alliance Raid Roulette Needs adjustments

    I play all the 24 man roulette levels. Most of them I did in there prime too. Now with a roulette its not balanced at all. If I end up in The Orbonne Monastery its not the same level of challenge as the the first 2 Crystal Tower levels/dungeons. Plus some people don't want a challenge so they don't unlock the later ones. Not a crime but I feel it stops some dungeons from popping up more. Same reason I keep getting snowcloak as a 50/60/70 roulette. I do believe that labyrinth of the ancients need an item level sync of 80. Then bring Syrcus Tower to item level 100 or 110. Even The Royal City could use a little help too. I feel the reward is not balanced. Some people even back out if they don't get The Crystal Tower.
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    Crystal tower is the fastest run available, outside syrcus tower. You can dps the crap out of the boss and ignore 99% of mechanics outside the last boss. There's no point in adjusting a 24 man raid when it's old content. Unless they add further rewards like MSQ cutscene simulator for triple xp and 5x's tomestones (which isn't gonna happen), it's not worthwhile for the devs to go back and adjust old content from ages past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    Crystal tower is the fastest run available, outside syrcus tower. You can dps the crap out of the boss and ignore 99% of mechanics outside the last boss.
    You miss the point. Having too much dps is the problem. That's why its not an equal challenge to the other levels in its roulette. Hence too much exp for those 2 next to the others. How is it old stuff if many run it once a day as a roulette? I have just got out of a run where people complained it was too slow and started talking about dick. What if we had a lower ilv as I suggest? Then we would have the original mechanics to do. On one run of lab I had someone shouting about how the war players should use cd's and take the big hit on King Behemoth to make it faster. How is that not ok?
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    Last edited by RMA209; 07-30-2019 at 02:58 AM.

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    Cynric Zerr
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    After it's 2 patch time in the sun, 24 mans are meant to be burned through to get experience, not to be challenging content. If it wasn't a quick way to get exp, not nearly the same amount of ppl would still run it as there is nothing else that is really worthwhile coming from it outside of glamour and story if its your literal first run through.

    It would be great if they went back and redid some of the old content of gave us extreme versions of the 24 mans, but if they haven't yet I doubt they ever will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    After it's 2 patch time in the sun, 24 mans are meant to be burned through to get experience, not to be challenging content. If it wasn't a quick way to get exp, not nearly the same amount of ppl would still run it as there is nothing else that is really worthwhile coming from it outside of glamour and story if its your literal first run through.
    um.... What about The Orbonne Monastery? Many people back out the second its there roulette. Last time I was there we all died on every boss. I got it as a roulette a few weeks back and people kept jumping ship all the way through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMA209 View Post
    You miss the point. Having too much dps is the problem. That's why its not an equal challenge to the other levels in its roulette. Hence too much exp for those 2 next to the others. How is it old stuff if many run it once a day as a roulette? I have just got out of a run where people complained it was too slow and started talking about dick. What if we had a lower ilv as I suggest? Then we would have the original mechanics to do. On one run of lab I had someone shouting about how the war players should use cd's and take the big hit on King Behemoth to make it faster. How is that not ok?
    Sadly you're barking up the wrong tree if you think squeenix will adjust older content to challenge users lol. If it's not shb, then they're gonna ignore it for the most part. It's fine as it is. I can understand the complaints, but squeenix isn't gonna touch it anymore since it's no longer relevant content and shb. Simple as that.
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    Old content? The lore is used in Shadowbringers and they suggest you go play it. Also its in a roulette many play daily. With New game plus more people might go check out old content. That feature not even out yet. If they can change the Main Scenario roulette they can change this. I don't think it needs to be the min item level but a lower one would be better then it is now.
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    I love Orbonne but lately when i get it for my roulette the alliance cant get past Thunder God. Honestly, I dont blame the people backing out as soon as they get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMA209 View Post
    Old content? The lore is used in Shadowbringers and they suggest you go play it. Also its in a roulette many play daily. With New game plus more people might go check out old content. That feature not even out yet. If they can change the Main Scenario roulette they can change this. I don't think it needs to be the min item level but a lower one would be better then it is now.
    Titan lore is also used in Shadowbringers. Doesnt make it not old content.
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    There isnt a lot of challenge for challenger's sake in this game. Current content always has a varying degree of challenge, but comes with rewards worth said challenge. People used to be patient for Orbonne when it first came out/up to 5.0 release because the reward was worth the time. Now they get better gear just from running story. That being said, it's a hard pitch to make to get SE to make a dungeon that drops i80 gear challenging again when the reward coming out of it is exponentially less rewarding.
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