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  1. #61
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    Gun-Cat's Avatar
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    M'rin Vhani
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    Balmung
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Numbers aside they need to revamp the mudra system. It is too punishing. If it was just me screwing up fine, but the whole thing is so sensetive to your latency and connection, something the emphasis ShB has on it brought to the light. One of the most frequent things I read in the JP NIN thread was that people dislike how much it bites into your gcds and how stressed they are about execution, with a lot of systems in the NIN kit being reliant on a very strickt execution with no catchup net.

    Fix the mudras and give NIN the QoL changes every other class has gotten by now.
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  2. #62
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    armandojc3's Avatar
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    Apoc Baldr
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    Midgardsormr
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Wish SE would at least say more changes are on the way, they dont even have to say when, right now almost every ninja is giving up on the job.
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  3. #63
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    24daking's Avatar
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    Cloude Strifez
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyouSeishin View Post
    How about... they give us Shadewalker back, cept its a permanent buff you place on someone, but allows them to benefit from your TA, otherwise, only you do. This will make TA "less op" and there would no longer be a reason to keep NIN as low as it is... i know this takes a page out of Dancer's book, but the type of support is appealing. (I love Dancer)

    Also stop people from going "Stop complaining, you were always meta"


    ...and maybe make TA last 15 seconds
    It triggers me that we can fit our entire burst into our trick attacks anymore.. and I would be down for this change it would make trick attacks rdps around 200-500ish depending on who your give the buff to.. then they could be on par personal damage wise with the other melee dps besides sams who need love 2
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  4. #64
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    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 80
    Welp, that's it for me as well~

    Yea the sustain is a tad low so thats why I was expecting some buffs to the GCDs, but 50 points only on one of them is faaaaaar from what NIN needed.
    I may still main it for MSQ, as it feels the most natural for me, having been a NIN since its launch...
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  5. #65
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    24daking's Avatar
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    Cloude Strifez
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gun-Cat View Post
    Numbers aside they need to revamp the mudra system. It is too punishing. If it was just me screwing up fine, but the whole thing is so sensetive to your latency and connection, something the emphasis ShB has on it brought to the light. One of the most frequent things I read in the JP NIN thread was that people dislike how much it bites into your gcds and how stressed they are about execution, with a lot of systems in the NIN kit being reliant on a very strickt execution with no catchup net.

    Fix the mudras and give NIN the QoL changes every other class has gotten by now.
    Agree 1000% overall ninja has so many issue to tackle and the reason is that they have been neglected for so long cuz “trick attack is good” all these issues are things we’ve been asking for since release
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  6. #66
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    24daking's Avatar
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    Cloude Strifez
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Am I the only one that’s been laying in bed all day semi depressed since reading the patch notes?

    Just checking for science
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  7. #67
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    Zytoryu's Avatar
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    Valerie Venerer
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    Zalera
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by 24daking View Post
    Am I the only one that’s been laying in bed all day semi depressed since reading the patch notes?

    Just checking for science
    ive been grudgingly gearing up my SAM for raid while i wilt in despair over what could have been.
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  8. #68
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    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by 24daking View Post
    Am I the only one that’s been laying in bed all day semi depressed since reading the patch notes?
    You have 7 pages worth of bothered people here in only this post.
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  9. #69
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    Darkstride's Avatar
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    Ruin Darkstride
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    If they are intent on having Trick Attack Ninja's signature, then it needs to be more beneficial to Ninja directly.

    I would suggest changing TA to Sneak Attack. Same as it is now, but once you execute from the rear, it changes to Trick Attack. Trick Attack, once used, would then give a damage buff to NIN to essentially extend or increase the burst window for personal DPS. Ideally you could probably Sneak Attack, unload Kassatsu, TCJ then Trick Attack followed by buffed Bunshin.

    A simpler solution would be to just have NIN gain more from TA than the rest of the party, but that's also less interesting.
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    Last edited by Darkstride; 07-31-2019 at 01:12 AM.

  10. #70
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    Genbe197's Avatar
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    Beatrix Steinner
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 91
    So how much dps will a 50 pot buff do?
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