Thread: 5.05 Healer Changes

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

Um, so? Making it meta again was never the point. It was to balance them with the other healers.
You shouldn't want any job buffed into meta.
Healers are, as of right now, pretty nicely balanced.

I thought the point was to make all three healers meta, right? Isn't that what balanced means? Also if you think that ast will be on an even playing field with sch and whm right now, you're mistaken. Healing potencies was not what they needed most. The only actual buff they got to their raid contribution is divination being on a shorter cooldown. And let's be real, divination being a 6% buff for 15s on a 2 minute cd is still pretty pathetic.

Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

AST still does the most raid buffing of all the healers by a wide margin.

Irrelevant when it doesn't even come close to making up for their terrible personal dps.

Originally Posted by Lagomorph

Irrelevant when it doesn't even come close to making up for their terrible personal dps.

It actually puts them on par with scholars pretty consistently. You can check the new RDPS metric for that data. Ast damage + buffs is in a good place rn compared to sch damage.

trick attack atm is not doing enough to make ninja worth taking for one, and two thats when you use all the buffs at once. The value of the card buff outside of actual cd windows is pretty low.

Originally Posted by Lagomorph

I thought the point was to make all three healers meta, right? Isn't that what balanced means? Also if you think that ast will be on an even playing field with sch and whm right now, you're mistaken. Healing potencies was not what they needed most. The only actual buff they got to their raid contribution is divination being on a shorter cooldown. And let's be real, divination being a 6% buff for 15s on a 2 minute cd is still pretty pathetic.

Even so, it does put AST on a much sturdier base than it was before and while the Divination change will need to be fully tested before we can make any actual arguments about AST's spot in terms of the meta, it's still a good improvement overall.

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

Um, so? Making it meta again was never the point. It was to balance them with the other healers.
You shouldn't want any job buffed into meta.
Healers are, as of right now, pretty nicely balanced.

No, not really. AST is still far behind in rdps contribution and their healing kit still sucks compared to what WHM has. Even tho AST is much harder to play than WHM, this is leaving WHM in lead in both aspects by a large margin. This is by no means balanced.

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

Um, so? Making it meta again was never the point. It was to balance them with the other healers.
You shouldn't want any job buffed into meta.
Healers are, as of right now, pretty nicely balanced.

What I meant was that it's not even close in terms of dps. The upgrade is what? At best 1/3 of the rdps contribution plus a bit on top because less healing will be needed. We're talking what? 200 maybe 300 dps more? Nothing has really changed.

Originally Posted by Zolvolt

Absolutely sourgrapes about Energy Drain coming back. Gameplay wise Energy Drain does one thing: Makes it feel bad to use healing aetherflow. If damage aetherflow is an option it will ALWAYS make using healing aetherflow feel bad. Always. Sacred Soil got some amazing frequent use with the new Sch and not we're going to go back to only using it seldom to negate big damage. Your designers knew what they were doing when they removed Energy Drain and to bring it back because people who don't understand class design are crying about wanting more damage is just incredibly disappointing.

Get over yourself. If Sacred Soil is indeed "worth it", then it will still see use. SCHs will not suddenly start burning their Aetherflow on CD on Energy Drain just because deeps, because that's not really how it was ever used anyway.

Energy Drain was either your reward for optimising your healing (and thus a stack dump), or it was a risk you took and if your gamble failed, you paid for it pretty heavily (by having to resort to your less efficient GCD heals). Being able to take risks is vital for a compelling gameplay system. It also gives Dissipation more of a reason to continue existing, because you sure as hell weren't consistently spending your stacks before Aetherflow came off cooldown before, let alone having 6 to get rid of.