Customizable pronouns

[Mezzoforte]

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
Sex redefined

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

Science is not done by consensus. Also, those articles are instances of political pandering and not scientific review. If you can't tell the difference between science and pandering there is nothing that can be done. They key is in the presentation of the information. They are only relabeling.

Since I am a scientist in the field of genetics and disagree with those politically oriented secondary sources, how does that jive with your appeal to authority?

[SenorPatty]

I have two issues with this.

1) Do you have examples of this happening? The only time I can remember the dev team saying they had to cut stuff for work on other parts of the game was Eureka.

2) I feel like youre asking for them to never make another ultimate again, the percentage of the playerbase that ever gets involved in running that content is minuscule at best. "Only a small amount of players benefit from"

1) Well the most recent example is the hrothgar/viera debacle. Other things were stuff that were in the interviews in the following months leading to the release ShB when interviewers would ask questions about various technical stuff and some other wishlist (I recall one interviewer from either dualshockers or polygon asking about possible blitzball). Often times, Yoshi would respond by saying that his team is working currently working hard on things (about shb) that he couldn't reveal yet.


2) I actually want them to make another Ultimate every expac. The point I was making was that even though a small number of people participated, much less cleared, the viewership alone pretty much promoted the game and created buzz around it in a good light because those numbers were far greater than the participants. As such, to me at least, Ultimate content is worth the time and resources just for those two factors alone because more people can still enjoy it, participant or not versus reconstructed dialog, quest and voice acting scrips to include one or two pronouns.

[Saidosha]

I suppose I look to this as something that has to be coded from the beginning. As others surmise, any references to he/she or similar are likely determined by configuration set in character creation. From the simple coding perspective, this could treat 0 as Female and 1 as Male when various tags check the attribute. The problem with adding a 2, or beyond, is that the code is presently absent the logic to interpret that, which could translate to simply a blank space or the game outright crashing depending on code structure. Further so, with the enormous amount of text the game has, voice acted aside, all the tags that refer to this variable will need to be checked and assured to be bug free. The argument that this might not be financially sound winds up carrying a bit more weight with this understanding, further so if we may consider further cultural differences.

But like some others, I subscribe to the notion that this isn't Earth as we know it. As such, expecting it to follow the same social norms or the people within vulnerable to various preferences or proclivities is self-insert at best and backseat authorial overreach at worst. Personally, I can recall people being upset about how the people of Spira dressed in FFX, not just X-2. Women revealing as much skin as they did, or the impracticality of certain garments, basically oozed the forcing of our reality on a fictional realm when people tried to assert things should or certain be a certain way.

And forgive me if this has come up as I haven't read the whole thread, but I also perceive this request as a slippery slope. If visually identifiable male characters dictate a female pronoun request, what's to further stop them from wanting the feminine variations of clothing to wear, as well? And vice versa? We're already looking at manpower issues when it comes to gearing up the new races and them basically borrowing other class assets, but to do this would literally double the required equipment data and all requisite testing to further guarantee things don't drastically clip, aren't seam broken, and so on.

Again, things like this are something that arguably needs to be considered from the beginning, not nearly a decade after the project's initiation. I can certainly understand inclusion, and to some extent, you can have that within the RP sphere amongst people who further respect the process, but right now, the mechanical requirements will likely not come to pass with super specific representation likely relegated to NPCs. And just going through Japan's track record with anime, sometimes that's not going to be flattering.

[Inuk9]

My post got erased, so yeah. That's how I see this subject. If you disagree with OP or any progressive agenda in this forum you just get censured right away. Not posting in this circus anymore.

[Wilford111]

My post got erased, so yeah. That's how I see this subject. If you disagree with OP or any progressive agenda in this forum you just get censured right away. Not posting in this circus anymore.

You forgot to put quotation marks around "progressive".

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

Why did this thread make it 30 pages?

[IBLazORI]

I'm a female Au' Ra but identify as a Male Roe.

They should get rid of the Male and Female symbol during character creation and make everything gender neutral.
They shouldn't have "female" "male" voices in character creation and make everything a robotic voice. /s

[HumanNinjaToo]

Why did this thread make it 30 pages?

Because of posts like this one, lol

This is unnecessary, their are only two sexes, male and female, that's it. Gender is a social construct used to marginalize rational thought that transgresses modern liberalism.

[Mikhaill]

I can hardly believe this is still going...Well I do but...
Really? Who friggin' cares...It's a video game...
If you wish to be called a "them/they/dinosaur" you'll have more chances of real, actual humans to respect you enough if told.
It's the same thing as forced male/female characters in games.
I wish I was a female in some but it it what it is. I'm not trying to be rude but devs really have more bigger fish to
fry than something like this. Just play pretend and try to not let it bother you.

On a personal note, I always am more choices but this one is so tiny...it honestly feels like a waste
and if they did think about it, it'll take so much time when they could be doing other things and should
be waaay in the backburner.


And calling everyone a bigot and crap because they disagree with you doesn't help.
So stop it.

[Krotoan]

Because of posts like this one, lol

This is unnecessary, their are only two sexes, male and female, that's it. Gender is a social construct used to marginalize rational thought that transgresses modern liberalism.

actually it's more likely going because they were successful at trying to bait out replies like yours that can be attacked on the basis of inclusion and calling your morals into question instead of looking at the actual technical merits/costs/benefits of a change like the one that was proposed.

It's already been admitted by both proponents and opponents that the change is too much to apply to this game already. The rest of it is people trying to either make themselves look good, or vilify others.