Customizable pronouns

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

Troll thread./

[Granyala]

My gender is fairly public, like anyone else's? Are woman shoving it in your face when you call them she or her? Are men? Is a male dog shoving it in your face when you go "aw, who's such a good boy"?

Well our species has two biological genders. There's no way of getting around that fact. But it also only has 2 genders as far as I am concerned.
You either have a Y chromosome or not. Male or female. Everything beyond that is in your mind and does not concern me at all.
Neither should it concern the use of language.

BTW: I work as a male secretary. Since I rarely sign E-Mails with my full name, people refer to me as a woman all the time. It doesn't bother me in the slightest and certainly doesn't make me feel less manly.

Just a friendly warning.
Please delete this because you're probably inching towards a permaban here soon.

Since my post count is up, the only thing I am going to inch towards now is my bed.
Mods can assess deleted messages anyway, so that wouldn't help. I've merely stated a biological fact.

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
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Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

The article in question talks about sexual development DISORDERS ... a.k.a. sicknesses / distorted body functions that occur in less than 1% of the population.
It's a pretty big leap from that to "the human species has fluid genders and language use must account for that".
What's next? A disabled person like me is classified as a subspecies?

[Xia_Thas]

Well our species has two biological genders. There's no way of getting around that fact. But it also only has 2 genders as far as I am concerned.
You either have a Y chromosome or not. Male or female. Everything beyond that is in your mind and does not concern me at all.
Neither should it concern the use of language.

BTW: I work as a male secretary. Since I rarely sign E-Mails with my full name, people refer to me as a woman all the time. It doesn't bother me in the slightest and certainly doesn't make me feel less manly.

Oh no that's gonna spark a response.

[Mikhaill]

2 posts above me post.

Just a friendly warning.
Please delete this because you're probably inching towards a permaban here soon.

[cinnamonoreo]

Well our species has two biological genders. There's no way of getting around that fact. But it also only has 2 genders as far as I am concerned.
You either have a Y chromosome or not. Male or female. Everything beyond that is in your mind and does not concern me at all.
Neither should it concern the use of language.

BTW: I work as a male secretary. Since I rarely sign E-Mails with my full name, people refer to me as a woman all the time. It doesn't bother me in the slightest and certainly doesn't make me feel less manly.

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
Sex redefined

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

[Siete]

Just a friendly warning.
Please delete this because you're probably inching towards a permaban here soon.

He has a point.
I'm a biological male, I do not feel like a male, neither a woman, but regardless I'm a guy at first look... Well at least sometimes, both my name and my looks make people confused so they call me whatever, I don't really care to be honest.
Buuuuut I'm also CIS, I do not relate to the typical male but I'm a "male" and usually attacked as a common male by the LGBT+ people.
Anyways, I never understand why people get so pissed at how they're called, it feels so forced.

[Komarimono]

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
Sex redefined

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

The first you linked had no credited scientific sources, googling couldn't find anything either so may be a buzz article to try and inspire others. The second talks of the mutation of the human body during development in the womb, and also it is quite rare for some of the extremes, and even still, they physically have those features as well. Covers the physical genetic makeup, not the mental one. Literal DSD, disorder of sexual development, physically...

[Xia_Thas]

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
Sex redefined

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

Some do, just as some studies say one thing will kill you while another study will say it won't. Let's do ourselves a favor and not start this arbitrary and pointless argument flinging facts at each other based on our biased views on the matter that will eventually lead to no where since no one side still in this thread is willing to come to a middle ground conclusion. We answered the original question with a widely accepted answer. Save your daily posts and don't let yourself get bent out of shape over public forums.

[Gwenorai]

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
Sex redefined

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

This is still out for debate in the scientific community. In biology, sex is just that, your biological sex. Nothing is going to override that. It's why when people go through transitioning we still need to know certain information regarding your birth sex. Certain illnesses are more common in a certain biological gender than in another. This is also the same in regards to mental health, where depression is more common in females than it is in males due to chemical differences.

We personally don't care about what you mentally consider yourself to be, in regards to society - you, do you. But your biological makeup is a biologists business, and you can't change that. Note; if I saw you in a hospital I will call you by your wanted pronoun out of respect, but I'm still going to ask you questions regarding your background and your health if it is needed to do my job correctly.

And yes, I can say this with certainty, I'm a human biologist.

[Barraind]

Anyways, I never understand why people get so pissed at how they're called, it feels so forced.

We largely ran out of real things to yell and scream about, so if you want to go yell and scream and break other peoples stuff in the name of a cause, you probably have to make one up.

Currently, its the era of the gamestop IHHTS MAAAAHAAAAAM guy and what people should refer to you as even when they would have no reason to do so.

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

Ehhhh... theres some things in there that have already been disproven, and some things that are so statistically insignificant in terms of number of people impacted worldwide, it may be impossible to ever conduct legitimate studies on them.

You cant really say you've linked X to Y when theres fewer than 10 cases in recorded history.


Anecdotal story: There is a strain of cancer (specifically diagnosed currently as sarcoma) that in the last 200+ years has killed 63 people (the most recent person being one of my best friends). They classify it this way only because it has a metastasization rate somewhat similar to the most aggressive known cancer strains (From earliest possible diagnosis to death, you have 4-5 days before it spreads to the entire body and causes multiple system failure) and its growth appears to be similar to soft-tissue sarcoma. We are most likely multiple generations of diagnostics away from even being able to identify what it actually is, due to the combination of rarity, lethality and impact on the body. This strain of cancer is more common than several of the genetic defects they're trying to link as "alternate sexualities".