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  1. #191
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    This is not the real world. Leave all that stuff (religions, gender and sexual preferences, politics in general, etc.) out of here, please. No one cares about what you do or what you like IRL, as it should. So do whatever you want to do with your life, and let the devs create the fantasy world that they want to.

    In other words, your character is not you. You don't even own it, either. So, in the end, you can only choose what the devs allow you to choose considering how they envision their world. Same reason as of why they don't let us choose if we want to be a pure breed garlean, or an ascian, or play an evil character. Many players would love those, but the devs decided that they are not an option for PCs.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    This is not the real world. Leave all that stuff (religions, gender and sexual preferences, politics in general, etc.) out of here, please. No one cares about what you do or what you like IRL, as it should. So do whatever you want to do with your life, and let the devs create the fantasy world that they want to.

    In other words, your character is not you. You don't even own it, either. So, in the end, you can only choose what the devs allow you to choose considering how they envision their world. Same reason as of why they don't let us choose if we want to be a pure breed garlean, or an ascian, or play an evil character. Many players would love those, but the devs decided that they are not an option for PCs.
    People RP as all of those.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    People RP as all of those.
    They also roleplay as a tablecloth and as a doorstop, but that doesn't mean the developers have overhauled mechanics or systems for those uncommon cases to facilitate their roleplay. They do fine with the tools they already have.

    Those uncommon cases require (SpongeBob) imaaaagination to pull off ingame, and that's OK. That's what rp is about, after all. All interface information is by definition out of character, so it frankly doesn't matter whether square lets someone make their pronoun whomstd've. It's up to your character to use it in character for it to exist in character, which is something square can't help you with.

    Oh, and before you try to tell me cutscenes are in character -- no. That's someone else's story. If you're keen on roleplaying, tell your own story rather than try to convince me the exarch picked you specifically when he did the exact thing to me. And the other guy. And her over there, too.
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  4. #194
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    To be honest all the checks are all ready in the game for when they call you by one of the sex. The voices cutscenes are already done for both HE and SHE variations. Switching between He or She should be an easy toggle. IT is already More or less (if X character = Male Then Text displayed = Y) and so on. So change the check to a setting the player can choose. In options => Default (Your characters actual Gender in game), Male, Female. Any options else besides that would take alot of rewritting and voice acting... so 100% would NOT be worth it at all.



    But the whole bringing real life stuff into the game is sorta meh in my eyes. This is a fantasy game and a fantasy world. We are not in the real world. I would be alittle iffy about adding too much stuff like this cause it opens a can of worms.
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    This is not the real world. Leave all that stuff (religions, gender and sexual preferences, politics in general, etc.) out of here, please. No one cares about what you do or what you like IRL, as it should. So do whatever you want to do with your life, and let the devs create the fantasy world that they want to.

    In other words, your character is not you. You don't even own it, either. So, in the end, you can only choose what the devs allow you to choose considering how they envision their world. Same reason as of why they don't let us choose if we want to be a pure breed garlean, or an ascian, or play an evil character. Many players would love those, but the devs decided that they are not an option for PCs.
    Are we playing the same game? Did you really just skip over every political moment in this game that is a parallel to the real world.

    Heck they even have a small story element with the NPC "Koko" in the Azim Steppe regarding something very similar to what the OP is asking for.

    Honestly, the things I'd love to say to people like you and the many others in this thread that spew hate but I'd fetch a ban for that right quick.

    What I will say is you aren't clever, your intent is very clear. Hatred, hatred, hatred.

    Spin it however way you like but if this is the conclusion you come to, and I've seen your kind many times before, it's all from hatred.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaBunny2 View Post
    I wouldn’t be against it, but there are the issues of dialogue programming and localizations of the gendered romantic languages. It might take up more time/resources, etc, but I don’t know much about programming. Maybe in another/future MMO?
    Alot of time and resources actually. Take all the text in the game that has a reference to the PC that goes by either he or she, then imagine having a variable table assigned to reallocate the pronoun to something else, and having a variable toggle somewhere. Then go back and look at all the text that would have to be gone through in order to do that. Its bloat and nothing more than a waste of time and resources. And thats a simple example if the program using it was simple, FFXIV and most games aren't that simple.
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Honestly, the things I'd love to say to people like you and the many others in this thread that spew hate but I'd fetch a ban for that right quick.
    What I will say is you aren't clever, your intent is very clear. Hatred, hatred, hatred.
    Spin it however way you like but if this is the conclusion you come to, and I've seen your kind many times before, it's all from hatred.
    I don't hate gender confused people (by that I mean people that find it hip but don't have any real condition and just jump on the bandwagon) or people that suffer from real DSD.
    They have issues that should be treated. I respect them the same as I do all other humans but I'm not going to make exceptions for them or treat them with kid gloves because they demand it.

    DSDs account for less than 1% of the population, according to an article one of them linked here. We cannot adjust our language use for every supertiny minority. It would end up in total chaos.

    BTW: the only one that "spews hate" is actually you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    But the whole bringing real life stuff into the game is sorta meh in my eyes. This is a fantasy game and a fantasy world. We are not in the real world. I would be alittle iffy about adding too much stuff like this cause it opens a can of worms.
    Not just that, it also breaks immersion.
    Eorzea is a medieval culture, they have for more worries than some gender confusion our western society makes up because we apparently don't have any real problems to think about anymore. It just wouldn't fit because the society wasn't originally designed with this kind of behavior in mind.

    To force it in just to please a small part of a 1% minority is absurd.
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    Last edited by Granyala; 07-28-2019 at 04:58 PM.

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  9. #198
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    Haha, good one.

    *grabs Lalafell and begins to clean the rather messy table*
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  10. #199
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    The number of people who disagree with this topic concerns me
    Well first of all, gender (and sexuality) shouldn't be a political debate since they just... exist... and making their identity as debate topic is rude
    Second, cisgender shouldn't assume their opinions worth than actual non-binaries. We know what's the best for ourselves
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    Ignoring the people slinging vitriol here for a moment, I'd be quite on board with this idea. Representation is good.
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