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[Komarimono]

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
Sex redefined

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

The first you linked had no credited scientific sources, googling couldn't find anything either so may be a buzz article to try and inspire others. The second talks of the mutation of the human body during development in the womb, and also it is quite rare for some of the extremes, and even still, they physically have those features as well. Covers the physical genetic makeup, not the mental one. Literal DSD, disorder of sexual development, physically...

[Xia_Thas]

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
Sex redefined

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

Some do, just as some studies say one thing will kill you while another study will say it won't. Let's do ourselves a favor and not start this arbitrary and pointless argument flinging facts at each other based on our biased views on the matter that will eventually lead to no where since no one side still in this thread is willing to come to a middle ground conclusion. We answered the original question with a widely accepted answer. Save your daily posts and don't let yourself get bent out of shape over public forums.

[Gwenorai]

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
Sex redefined

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

This is still out for debate in the scientific community. In biology, sex is just that, your biological sex. Nothing is going to override that. It's why when people go through transitioning we still need to know certain information regarding your birth sex. Certain illnesses are more common in a certain biological gender than in another. This is also the same in regards to mental health, where depression is more common in females than it is in males due to chemical differences.

We personally don't care about what you mentally consider yourself to be, in regards to society - you, do you. But your biological makeup is a biologists business, and you can't change that. Note; if I saw you in a hospital I will call you by your wanted pronoun out of respect, but I'm still going to ask you questions regarding your background and your health if it is needed to do my job correctly.

And yes, I can say this with certainty, I'm a human biologist.

[Siete]

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
Sex redefined

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

Let me take a wild guess, you did NOT read what you linked, right?

[cinnamonoreo]

Let me take a wild guess, you did NOT read what you linked, right?

I certainly did. Did you? The process of sexual differentiation in the womb has multiple steps, each influenced not only by genetics, but also hormones and environmental factors just like any other part of human development. The result is that binary male or female sex is not a guaranteed result. The second one in particular talks about that.

Here is a good and thorough Twitter thread on the subject with citations.

[Gwenorai]

I certainly did. Did you? The process of sexual differentiation in the womb has multiple steps, each influenced not only by genetics, but also hormones and environmental factors just like any other part of human development. The result is that binary male or female sex is not a guaranteed result. The second one in particular talks about that.

Here is a good and thorough Twitter thread on the subject with citations.

He's talking about people who are classed as intersex, it is still classed as a disorder of development. It is not common, it is not the norm and a lot of folks who have these orders have health issues due to it. Most people who are born into this also don't call themselves 'they/them' a lot of them are happy simply picking their gender they consider themselves - less 'they/them' and more 'he/she'. I suggest not speaking for them unless you are one of the rare individuals who was born like this and even then don't it's rude, you can't speak for the masses. They do not need white knighting.

[Komarimono]

I certainly did. Did you? The process of sexual differentiation in the womb has multiple steps, each influenced not only by genetics, but also hormones and environmental factors just like any other part of human development. The result is that binary male or female sex is not a guaranteed result. The second one in particular talks about that.

Here is a good and thorough Twitter thread on the subject with citations.

They speak of physically intersex people, not mentally. Even going to the point of "It is worth noting that I never talk about transgender in this thread. Intersex is not the same as transgender. You can be one without the other, or be both. " So, they are just doing what a biologist does.

[ForteNightshade]

I certainly did. Did you? The process of sexual differentiation in the womb has multiple steps, each influenced not only by genetics, but also hormones and environmental factors just like any other part of human development. The result is that binary male or female sex is not a guaranteed result. The second one in particular talks about that.

Here is a good and thorough Twitter thread on the subject with citations.

Using Twitter as a reference is... probably not a good idea. Briefly scrolling through the responses and you already have people with verified credentials discrediting the person. I won't comment myself on the subject because I have no interest continuing down this rabbit hole. What I'll say instead is this remains a very divisive topic that is best kept away from a gaming forum.

[Mezzoforte]

Visualizing Sex as a Spectrum
Sex redefined

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

Science is not done by consensus. Also, those articles are instances of political pandering and not scientific review. If you can't tell the difference between science and pandering there is nothing that can be done. They key is in the presentation of the information. They are only relabeling.

Since I am a scientist in the field of genetics and disagree with those politically oriented secondary sources, how does that jive with your appeal to authority?

[Barraind]

Anyways, I never understand why people get so pissed at how they're called, it feels so forced.

We largely ran out of real things to yell and scream about, so if you want to go yell and scream and break other peoples stuff in the name of a cause, you probably have to make one up.

Currently, its the era of the gamestop IHHTS MAAAAHAAAAAM guy and what people should refer to you as even when they would have no reason to do so.

Scientists, including biologists, disagree on sex being purely binary.

Ehhhh... theres some things in there that have already been disproven, and some things that are so statistically insignificant in terms of number of people impacted worldwide, it may be impossible to ever conduct legitimate studies on them.

You cant really say you've linked X to Y when theres fewer than 10 cases in recorded history.


Anecdotal story: There is a strain of cancer (specifically diagnosed currently as sarcoma) that in the last 200+ years has killed 63 people (the most recent person being one of my best friends). They classify it this way only because it has a metastasization rate somewhat similar to the most aggressive known cancer strains (From earliest possible diagnosis to death, you have 4-5 days before it spreads to the entire body and causes multiple system failure) and its growth appears to be similar to soft-tissue sarcoma. We are most likely multiple generations of diagnostics away from even being able to identify what it actually is, due to the combination of rarity, lethality and impact on the body. This strain of cancer is more common than several of the genetic defects they're trying to link as "alternate sexualities".