Customizable pronouns

[cinnamonoreo]

It doesn't matter what you identify as it's about the character in the game and you have limited options in gender, race, skintone ect and making an agender option would really speak to such a small % of the playerbase it's not worth the effort imo. As for the pixies, I think they didn't used gendered pronounce in my language so with the exception of the term King instead of Queen for Titania I didn't notice anything.

The character we make in the game is, to some extent, a reflection of us. It's also clear that, even with the limitations we have in the character creator, the people in the world we play in have just as much variety in personalities, appearances, and identities as we do in the real world. Allowing for some variety in pronouns reinforces that.

The pixies using gender neutral language and being natural and unobtrusive about it is one of the best parts of that, really. The fact that you didn't notice the lack of gender in their speech is a win and it goes to show that this is really possible to do without disrupting anything in game for other players.

As much as inclusiveness is nice, ultimately...it's really not worth the effort. Not here.

Inclusiveness is always worth the effort anywhere people are, whether that's identities, disabilities, playstyles, or personal beliefs.

[Scryar]

Inclusiveness is always worth the effort anywhere people are, whether that's identities, disabilities, playstyles, or personal beliefs.

No, it isn't . They have limited resources and i prefer them spending these on content that the majority or a significant minority can enjoy.

[cinnamonoreo]

No, it isn't . They have limited resources and i prefer them spending these on content that the majority or a significant minority can enjoy.

It's allowing one variable set to be changed, a variable that's clearly already in the game. The work needed for this wouldn't delay anything.

[Iscah]

It's allowing one variable set to be changed, a variable that's clearly already in the game. The work needed for this wouldn't delay anything.

No it isn't, because currently the pronouns are linked to another piece of data (the character's gender, part of the information already used to display the character model). Splitting them away from that requires a new piece of data that doesn't currently exist.

[dustdjinn]

Narangerel lets not deem non-binary people not worth the effort. I get what you are saying but I think your delivery is a little unintentional callous.

Cinnanmonoreo due to the fact that this games code is so old and the pronouns are tide to the sexes, it would not be do-able in my opinion. Maybe in a future game but remember that this game is going out to a huge variety of people but concept of nonbinary is new to the world let alone games. It's something games will have to catch up to, which I'm sure they will in the future. They may use the wrong pronouns to you but always remember it is nothing personal to you and they are not trying to attack non-binary people.

[Paige404]

Maybe in a future game but remember that this game is going out to a huge variety of people but concept of nonbinary is new to the world let alone games. It's something games will have to catch up to, which I'm sure they will in the future.

Correction: non-binary genders are new to you, and several games have been explicitly inclusive in this regard for years.

They may use the wrong pronouns to you but always remember it is nothing personal to you and they are not trying to attack non-binary people.

literally no one accused Squenix of this but okay

[dustdjinn]

Correction: non-binary genders are new to you, and several games have been explicitly inclusive in this regard for years.



literally no one accused Squenix of this but okay

Why are you trying to pick a fight where there isn't one? I understand that its been around for a while but the fact of the matter is, it has not been mainstream until the last couple decades. Stop being a little troll and understand context.

[VillainQueen]

The character we make in the game is, to some extent, a reflection of us. It's also clear that, even with the limitations we have in the character creator, the people in the world we play in have just as much variety in personalities, appearances, and identities as we do in the real world. Allowing for some variety in pronouns reinforces that.

The pixies using gender neutral language and being natural and unobtrusive about it is one of the best parts of that, really. The fact that you didn't notice the lack of gender in their speech is a win and it goes to show that this is really possible to do without disrupting anything in game for other players.

I didn't notice it because it's not a thing in my native language as I do not play in english and we have different sets of pronounces and our version of they/them is not used to talk about just one person. And I don't know how they handled it in japanese or french so just because it's in your region like that, it's not universal.

And having as much variety in your customizable choices like the real world does is just not possible. You just can't please everyone there are limitation that come with games. If I decide tomorrow I have a new identity and can't demand companies to go out of there way to include that. And what if that identity changes to a new one? However I don't really know if most people think that the WOL is a reflection of themselves, as many male non-trans players, play female and vice versa and I don't thing they have some hidden identity issues because of that.