Dark Knight follow up thread

[ashwich]

The point is that every other tank can do something similar without using an ability that eats into your dps. It's the same as if heart of stone took ammo or if raw/nascent flash(glint) took a portion of the beast gauge (500 potency loss respectively for the sake of argument). Now imagine if the full value of that ability was not used and you're out the potency.

As it is now, the two jobs mentioned above have it as a gain no matter what. War has a self sustain out of it. Heart of stone is just free. So those jobs get the mitigation at no cost. TBN is neutral at best. It's a simple disadvantage.

All I want is good gameplay to be rewarded. If you jack up, fine, eat the 500 potency loss. But if you do it well then it's a gain and not neutral.. The idea that it's neutral or loss just sucks.

See the last part of my previous post about the comparison to other tanks. Also, how is saving my healer the need to heal 30K health worth of damage a pop not a net gain??? what do you want to gain, dps? in the severely reduced scaling of tank damage in the current exp? that very healer GCD you potentially saved is worth more than whatever dev team is willing to throw our way as some sort of "net gain".

[Danelo]

See the last part of my previous post about the comparison to other tanks. Also, how is saving my healer the need to heal 30K health worth of damage a pop not a net gain??? what do you want to gain, dps? in the severely reduced scaling of tank damage in the current exp? that very healer GCD you potentially saved is worth more than whatever dev team is willing to throw our way as some sort of "net gain".

I read your post and congrats on taking the 1% of TBN usages and applying them to the whole. A bit snarky but if you're going to argue a point it should be on its general usage. Ideally you're healer should learn from their mistake and not get hit by the hypothetical AoE. It's dps neutral, again, at best, and considering the totality of mp regain resources within the current DRK kit it's entirely a loss.

When you compare it to other similar tank CDs it's that much worse.

[ashwich]

I read your post and congrats on taking the 1% of TBN usages and applying them to the whole. A bit snarky but if you're going to argue a point it should be on its general usage. Ideally you're healer should learn from their mistake and not get hit by the hypothetical AoE. It's dps neutral, again, at best, and considering the totality of mp regain resources within the current DRK kit it's entirely a loss.

When you compare it to other similar tank CDs it's that much worse.

What AOE though, I'm talking about using it on yourself, or your co-tank. on otherwise unavoidable damage. I fail to see how using TBN to mitigate damage puts it in the "1%". If you only want to optimize damage and have brainless defensive CDs. I'd call it taking the "lazy approach" to tanking.

[Danelo]

What AOE though, I'm talking about using it on yourself, or your co-tank. on otherwise unavoidable damage. I fail to see how using TBN to mitigate damage puts it in the "1%". If you only want to optimize damage and have brainless defensive CDs. I'd call it taking the "lazy approach" to tanking.

It's poor design with no reward by comparison to other similar tank CDs.