Square Enix, please think about both Casual AND Hardcore crafters..

[Nixxe]

With this in mind, would you be in favor of removing omnicrafting? This much greater need of exclusivity cuts both ways, not just between those who do and do not want to craft, but also in the matter that there's very little required interdependence of people within crafting and gathering itself.

A ridiculous suggestion. No, I would not be OK with another path to gutting the part of the game I enjoy.

A lack of interdependence isn't an issue. If you insist on doing everything yourself, you're going to stay poor. That's only a good strategy for when you're first starting out and lack the capital to just buy what you need. Players who have that capital and understand how the economy works will regularly buy things like raw or intermediate materials rather than waste time crafting or gathering them themselves.

[Kabooa]

A ridiculous suggestion. No, I would not be OK with another path to gutting the part of the game I enjoy.

A lack of interdependence isn't an issue. If you insist on doing everything yourself, you're going to stay poor. That's only a good strategy for when you're first starting out and lack the capital to just buy what you need. Players who have that capital and understand how the economy works will regularly buy things like raw or intermediate materials rather than waste time crafting or gathering them themselves.

How poor is poor to you?

I need to clarify this by saying I'm asking these questions to better understand your perspective. That is why I've asked prior about time commitments. That's why I'm asking now about what you consider poor.

[Nixxe]

How poor is poor to you?

I need to clarify this by saying I'm asking these questions to better understand your perspective.

Being poor is less about how much gil you have and more about how easily you can spend and replace millions of gil. You barely need anything to get started though. I got my start making Sanguine Scepters with barely 200k to my name, which were the crafted base for the BLM relic weapon. That was something I could do in my crappy hodgepodge of leveling gear with no clue how or where to get better gear. I didn't have a blacksmith or an armorsmith leveled either, so I had to buy darksteel nuggets from the MB. As you get more money, it gets easier to make even more money, but everyone can spend within their means to increase efficiency and profit.

[Kabooa]

Being poor is less about how much gil you have and more about how easily you can spend and replace millions of gil. You barely need anything to get started though. I got my start making Sanguine Scepters with barely 200k to my name, which were the crafted base for the BLM relic weapon. That was something I could do in my crappy hodgepodge of leveling gear with no clue how or where to get better gear. I didn't have a blacksmith or an armorsmith leveled either, so I had to buy darksteel nuggets from the MB. As you get more money, it gets easier to make even more money, but everyone can spend within their means to increase efficiency and profit.

I see.

Can't say I changed my mind, but I appreciate the time. I will say I don't think this is going to gain much traction, though, I do hope you get something you like. Otherwise I'll stick by my recommendation of Black Desert. I found the craft empire building there much more interesting.

[Nixxe]

I see.

Can't say I changed my mind, but I appreciate the time. I will say I don't think this is going to gain much traction, though, I do hope you get something you like. Otherwise I'll stick by my recommendation of Black Desert. I found the craft empire building there much more interesting.

If I quit FFXIV, I'm done with MMORPGs. They all just get ruined by people clamoring for "accessibility" anyway.

[CookiesNCreams]

I see.

Can't say I changed my mind, but I appreciate the time. I will say I don't think this is going to gain much traction, though, I do hope you get something you like. Otherwise I'll stick by my recommendation of Black Desert. I found the craft empire building there much more interesting.

How is Black Desert’s Crafting system?

[Kabooa]

How is Black Desert’s Crafting system?

On an individual crafting level it's honestly kind of horrid. Black Desert is more about building the empire behind it, but given progression is entirely money based, you get what you put into it. On a basic level, it's a more managerial system. Get workers, levels workers, get land, assign them to land, amass resources, transport resources to your home city, refine resources, then either sell said resources or use them to craft items and sell items.

It's a pretty effective time trap. The next time you find a lull or so, the game usually goes on sale often and it's a low pay wall entry with no subscription. Worth trying out. Isn't for everyone.

[CookiesNCreams]

On an individual crafting level it's honestly kind of horrid. Black Desert is more about building the empire behind it, but given progression is entirely money based, you get what you put into it. On a basic level, it's a more managerial system. Get workers, levels workers, get land, assign them to land, amass resources, transport resources to your home city, refine resources, then either sell said resources or use them to craft items and sell items.

It's a pretty effective time trap. The next time you find a lull or so, the game usually goes on sale often and it's a low pay wall entry with no subscription. Worth trying out. Isn't for everyone.

Money based? As in actual money or in game money? D: