SE needs to do more to help bad players

[Rivxkobe]

(of course you main samurai....).

I'm sorry.

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So to elaborate on my point before.

There is a difference between contributing by being extremely basic at your role and contributing by going beyond the basics.

Contributing through healing alone is equal to a Tank holding Aggro and a DPS dealing damage. They all mean little to nothing on their own but you need them all to clear a run.

[Nims]

I'm sorry.

It's okay sweet summer child.

Because unlike you, when I don't get upset with players around me when I use a convenience tool for fast grouping. I accept what it gives me.
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Because it's a covenience tool does not make it acceptable for you to not even try. There's one thing, again, to just generally not be good. It's another to not even try. You simply aren't even trying.

And if you accept what's given to you, why not accept that people are going to expect you to play your class properly and atleast try?

It's a two way street.

You can't force players to play how you want them to do it.

We aren't asking for that. We're atleast asking for ways to deal with them that doesn't punish us.

Why am I getting a temp ban for saying you're garbage when you KNOW you're garbage?
Why am I getting a 30 minute penalty for leaving a group with people that only uses 2 skills because they have cool animations?
Why is it there a 2 hour (fact check on that, I know it's like an hour to three hours) cool down on kicking people when there's many people that refuse to try?

This game gives people like you too many chances, tools, and opportunity to harass (cause that's what it is at this point) other players.

Hm? I am trying to what I want to do. As much as my fun factor will let me. If that means it takes a extra 5 to 10 mins of a run being slower. I'm willing to put that burden on my group. As long as it gets done that is all that matters, and if that ruins your fun. I'm not really sorry about that. Lucky for you, I don't group with players unless I got to do it.

You simply can not do what you want in a group setting with randoms. Again it's a two way street, I can not expect randoms to play the way I want them and I don't when I'm pugging. Why are you exempt from basic human decency by actually playing your class and being considerate?

Welp if you keep getting kicked don't blame it on the "community" and gripe about how the "community" isn't the best any more.

[Wavaryen]

It's okay sweet summer child.



Because it's a covenience tool does not make it acceptable for you to not even try. There's one thing, again, to just generally not be good. It's another to not even try. You simply aren't even trying.

And if you accept what's given to you, why not accept that people are going to expect you to play your class properly and atleast try?

It's a two way street.

Hm? I am trying to what I want to do. As much as my fun factor will let me. If that means it takes a extra 5 to 10 mins of a run being slower. I'm willing to put that burden on my group. As long as it gets done that is all that matters, and if that ruins your fun. I'm not really sorry about that. Lucky for you, I don't group with players unless I got to do it.