SE needs to do more to help bad players

[RoyalBeef]

Wanting msq stuff to be harder to teach them is not going to teach them. It is just going to punish them. That is pretty much it.

Of course. Ultimately they have to teach themselves. Being punished for sucking is an incentive for that. Rewards than can only be earned once you became a better player are also an incentive. Handing everything out for no effort breeds many lazy and bad players, who would have guessed? Add in the random cross server queues where players don't even have to mind their reputation anymore, and you get the current state the game is in.

[Wavaryen]

Of course. Ultimately they have to teach themselves. Being punished for sucking is an incentive for that. Rewards than can only be earned once you became a better player are also an incentive. Handing everything out for no effort breeds many lazy and bad players, who would have guessed? Add in the random cross server queues where players don't even have to mind their reputation anymore, and you get the current state the game is in.

That is not how it is going to work. What is going to happen is that you get more of your time wasted, not them getting better.