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  1. #21
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    DuskTS's Avatar
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    Cupid Duskysquirrel
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    It's just one of life's mysteries, OP. We may never truly know.
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  2. #22
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    OrangeCrystarium's Avatar
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    Samuel Fernguard
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    Louisoix
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I don't mind using regen but you will not find me upkeeping it needlessly. In dgns, that's just an invitation to get aggro mid pull. In raids/boss battles, if I know my party is not gonna get smacked by raid wide aoes for the next 15-30 secs, I'd prefer the conservative route and heal only as much as needed. This doubly goes now for shb where we only have 10k mana at any given moment. As a former healer mentor once told me: anyone can be a good healer. Not everyone can be an efficient healer. The distinction didn't make much sense to me at first but it became much, much more apparent later.
    MP requirements haven't changed though. Even before ShB MP costs were just a percentage of your total MP. The only thing that's changed is the maximum value. Plus Lucid Dreaming is now on a 60 second CD so you don't need to be as conservative about your casting.
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  3. #23
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    This thread is a perfect example of my I've put this macro on all my tank classes.
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  4. #24
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    JWag12787's Avatar
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    Kaiya Nakamura
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    Zalera
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Because tanks don't like REGEN on pulls, but want REGEN during fights, so either need to micromanage good timing, or don't use it.
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JWag12787 View Post
    Because tanks don't like REGEN on pulls, but want REGEN during fights, so either need to micromanage good timing, or don't use it.
    I don't think "put regen on me when I'm fighting, not pulling" is "micromanaging."
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  6. #26
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeCrystarium View Post
    MP requirements haven't changed though. Even before ShB MP costs were just a percentage of your total MP. The only thing that's changed is the maximum value. Plus Lucid Dreaming is now on a 60 second CD so you don't need to be as conservative about your casting.
    Perhaps, but that's just my style. I'm not the type of healer that will slap on spells "for safeties or just in case" so to speak. Could I slap on a regen pre-fight? I guess. But I'd rather be performing an action that brings greater value at the current time and place than one that doesn't do as much.

    You will have your regen. Believe me. Just...not needlessly, is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  7. #27
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    EaMett's Avatar
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    It uses gcd and can be mitigated by just using a multitude of other instant heals, such as the ones that use lillies. Occasionally I'll put one on a DPS I don't feel like wasting an instant on. Rather just use glare instead.

    I don't have trouble keeping people up and have effectively solo healed fights like Innocence extreme. Effectively solo healed Eden prime, and portions of titan before as well.
    3 pages and this is the only good answer given. :x

    Regen is on the GCD. Which means that any other oGCD heal OR afflatus skill should be used before using any of your GCD healing toolkit (that includes regen and medicas). For WHM that means that assize, bene, tetra, asylum, solace, rapture, and any of your co-healer's oGCD toolkit should be considered before you bother to cast regen. In the current content those are way more than enough so regen goes unused.
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    Last edited by EaMett; 07-24-2019 at 06:40 AM.

  8. #28
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    I always use regens when necessary, what annoys me is when the other healer proceeds to top people off despite there being no imminent threat. Thanks for throwing me straight to overheal, bud.
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  9. #29
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Can we trade places?
    Healers keep regening me as I'm pulling, and stealing my aggro.
    You shouldn't have any issue keeping aggro even when regen up currently. Hit the mobs.
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  10. #30
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I still use it, but new WHM abilities have made it a lot less important and I don't worry about its uptime nearly as much as I did in the past.
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