Ran'jit's strength makes no sense

[CaesarCV]

Spoilers for the end of Shadowbringers Ahoy!

Yeah, part of the way it works for the Warrior of Light is that we have basically 'extra power on' mode and 'extra power off' mode. In the former, we're usually empowered by something, whether that be the Blessing of Light, One of Hraesvelgr's Eyes, Ardbert's Fusion, the Bonus Light, etc. When we're in the latter mode, technically even ordinary soldiers and the like are considered a threat. So it's not that crazy that someone like Ran'Jit, a legendarily powerful warrior, could be a huge threat since we're in off mode. Especially since he's implied to be part Sin Eater.

That being said, I will echo some of the others here in how the final battle with Ran'Jit was a little anti-climactic, especially with the way more exciting duty against Thancred before that point. He should have either died there or had some other more climactic final battle, possibly with Thancred getting the final blow as good Dad and Bad Dad duke it out.

[IlSire]

Spoilers for the end of Shadowbringers Ahoy!

Yeah, part of the way it works for the Warrior of Light is that we have basically 'extra power on' mode and 'extra power off' mode. In the former, we're usually empowered by something, whether that be the Blessing of Light, One of Hraesvelgr's Eyes, Ardbert's Fusion, the Bonus Light, etc. When we're in the latter mode, technically even ordinary soldiers and the like are considered a threat. So it's not that crazy that someone like Ran'Jit, a legendarily powerful warrior, could be a huge threat since we're in off mode. Especially since he's implied to be part Sin Eater.

That being said, I will echo some of the others here in how the final battle with Ran'Jit was a little anti-climactic, especially with the way more exciting duty against Thancred before that point. He should have either died there or had some other more climactic final battle, possibly with Thancred getting the final blow as good Dad and Bad Dad duke it out.

Well about that:

I agree and I think that they wasted an opportunity there for the Mt Gulg dungeon which could have been better with the Jongleurs, Ran'jit and Sin Eater Songstress for bosses.

[AceOfCakez]

Ranjit's arc reminded me of Zenos. Zenos beat us twice and pretty much wanted us to level up. In the final fight, Zenos even acknowledges that we hit level 80 and delights in facing us (I think his exact words were along the lines of that we "sharpened our claws and fangs). I presume the same happened here. Due to Stormblood, I'm 100% convinced we're pretty much Saiyans, people who get way stronger the more people we beat. After losing to him in the first, all we had to do was kill some Lightwardens and level up to be on his level. I wish that they fleshed out Ranjit's storyline more though. He's one of those people I don't mind getting a redemption arc if they go the route of "Oh, we didn't actually kill Ranjit. He's still alive."

[FrejyaAthenes]

Having gotten Praetorium a lot in Main Scenario Roulette I always laugh now when Lahabrea says that Hydalen empowers us "beyond mortal limits." I'm like, "Between Zenos, Ran'jit, etc...are we sure about that? Maybe everyone else just isn't trying."

[Dualblade]

Having gotten Praetorium a lot in Main Scenario Roulette I always laugh now when Lahabrea says that Hydalen empowers us "beyond mortal limits." I'm like, "Between Zenos, Ran'jit, etc...are we sure about that? Maybe everyone else just isn't trying."

While I get what you're sayin, remember that we literally were only scratching Ultima Weapon without Hydaelyn's direct intervention. Hell even unsyncing it at 70 you'd at best get it to 95% before the part where she empowers you to take it down, at least as a tank. Zenos and Ran'jit would probably have had trouble with it as well.

[dragoelete]

Ranjit's arc reminded me of Zenos. Zenos beat us twice and pretty much wanted us to level up. In the final fight, Zenos even acknowledges that we hit level 80 and delights in facing us (I think his exact words were along the lines of that we "sharpened our claws and fangs). I presume the same happened here. Due to Stormblood, I'm 100% convinced we're pretty much Saiyans, people who get way stronger the more people we beat. After losing to him in the first, all we had to do was kill some Lightwardens and level up to be on his level. I wish that they fleshed out Ranjit's storyline more though. He's one of those people I don't mind getting a redemption arc if they go the route of "Oh, we didn't actually kill Ranjit. He's still alive."

we would actually be the opposite of sayajins since they grow stronger the more there beat up... like if there beaten to near death the moment they heal they get a huge power up.

[FrejyaAthenes]

While I get what you're sayin, remember that we literally were only scratching Ultima Weapon without Hydaelyn's direct intervention. Hell even unsyncing it at 70 you'd at best get it to 95% before the part where she empowers you to take it down, at least as a tank. Zenos and Ran'jit would probably have had trouble with it as well.

I dunno. A similar thing happens when you fight Livia's Magitek Armor unsynced. Not to mention how we're able to damage it normally after Ultima is cast.

A friend of mine has a theory that absorbing the Light Wardens increased our power, but I'm not sure about that myself.

[Ariki]

I smell a new dps job coming looking at his 2nd form and weapon....

[LSSJGamer]

Compared to our strength I agree with you OP.

Pointless rant and possible spoilers ahead:

At this point in the story my willing suspension of disbelief is tossed out the window when characters like Ranjit can beat us. Especially in the method he did. We have tanked far more powerful attacks than his pathetic lightning both before and after fighting him. If characters like him and Zenos were introduced earlier in the story I could get behind a powerful foe that we need to get stronger and beat. But considering what he have under our belt at this point I can't accept some old man's power level is higher than ours comparing our feats and experience. I might be a bit unfair saying that but I did not and still do not accept how things went down with Ranjit. But whatever I will deal with it. Plus I will just pretend he did exploit the WoL 2 greatest weaknesses, unavoidable game mechanics and cut scene incompetence. /rant

[TankHunter678]

Compared to our strength I agree with you OP.

Pointless rant and possible spoilers ahead:

At this point in the story my willing suspension of disbelief is tossed out the window when characters like Ranjit can beat us. Especially in the method he did. We have tanked far more powerful attacks than his pathetic lightning both before and after fighting him. If characters like him and Zenos were introduced earlier in the story I could get behind a powerful foe that we need to get stronger and beat. But considering what he have under our belt at this point I can't accept some old man's power level is higher than ours comparing our feats and experience. I might be a bit unfair saying that but I did not and still do not accept how things went down with Ranjit. But whatever I will deal with it. Plus I will just pretend he did exploit the WoL 2 greatest weaknesses, unavoidable game mechanics and cut scene incompetence. /rant

Ran'jit's design is very much along the lines of an ancient master monk, including his abilities to seemingly sense the flow of energy around him in order to pierce through illusions (though this can be argued that due to him being part Sin Eater during the story he simply sees through most illusions by default) and be able to sense where to strike to disrupt the flow of energy in a person to incapacitate them. Which is precisely what he does when we first meet him and first fight him. We were basically beating him until he figured out how our energy flow worked which he commented on and then like as in a typical old martial arts movie or anime he struck us in the pressure point where he cut off the flow of our energy and incapacitated us.

It is not so much that he was actually more powerful then us, but rather his martial arts style was something that gave him an advantage. When we face him a second time Vauthry was using his control over Sin Eaters and partial Sin Eaters to basically override how they functioned normally as people. So Ran'jit was not even trying to figure out how to incapacitate us and fought us head on. So we just beat him like we should have beaten him back at Laxan Loft.

Though story wise it would have been better for Ran'jit to have died at the hands of Thancred. Thematically it would have been very fitting.